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Old 12-13-2016, 02:37 PM   #1
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Post DCB7 : 1997 Accord EX



ENGINE
f22b1 vtec
Ceramic coated 4-2-1 header
2.25 axle back pipe
3" Short Ram Intake

maintenance (New)
battery+vss sensor
ds wheel bearing+hub assembly
rotor+ OEM bolts
inner+outer tie rods


EXTERIOR
stock

INTERIOR
Tan leather DA headrests

BRAKES
stock

SUSPENSION/WHEELS
Tein S-tech springs/ KYB exel-g struts
17x7.5 alloys + 205/40r17s


FUTURE PLANS




12.10.16








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Old 12-15-2016, 07:11 PM   #2
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swapped over the suspension and wheels from the CB
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Old 12-16-2016, 09:30 PM   #3
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Old 12-30-2016, 07:02 PM   #4
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CB7 sold; relatively cheap I think for all it came with. I miss the car already. That's a nicely shaped fender.

The newer one is kind of generic, but it's nice also. Sounds like the header is blown off.
Exhaust leak seems to be coming from under the heat shield; haven't checked it out yet. And another leak back by the muffler. I might have to give up some of the stock look and get a header for it.

Need to install camber kit for the front, toe seems good though, no pull. I would like spacers, but I hardly have any threads to spare on the lugs. I might try slimmer lugs because the generic ones i'm using don't go down into the rim. Then I could get away with some 5mm

I was surprised it has stock tweeters up on the dash. Front door speakers are out though. I got a cassette adapter, and Line out convertor to add the subwoofer I took out of the CB. 6x9's are punching a little but look like the originals (says 15W on the magnet) The adapter only plays out of the right though, and sounds like crap, and fumbling with the phone and skipping youtube ads while driving leaves me with no music most of the time; and I can't bother playing dodge-a-drake on the radio, so I'll probably just end up getting a new head unit.

I want to go looks first on this one, apart from the header. And I need a VSS sensor also
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Old 02-08-2017, 07:03 PM   #5
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cb when it was sold


cb7 front


cd5 front


It's sexier in person




culprit of all the noise (well most of it)


intake leak


INTERIOR: DA headrests




I also found this button that makes the seat go up and down

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Old 02-09-2017, 05:56 PM   #6
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Header

Long primary runners




before








after


was a tight fit. and it hung too low with a 1 inch gap at the cat. I had to remove the cat from the hangers, slip the bolts through at a angle, and ratchet it up into place


This is how I got it. Then I put the old O2 sensor back in for now


Last thing was to put a 2.25 axle back pipe in, and had it checked for leaks. None, and it sounds sweet with about 50% increase in power. Gas mileage looks better already so far
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Old 02-19-2017, 04:40 PM   #7
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vss

got a new vss. Was tricky to get to, old one was gunked up and the pin rubbed down. But the speedo works now for the first time since I got the car. The previous owner said 'maybe a thousand miles it was out'... Service records indicate timing belt and other components, including a/c were replaced at 220k, clutch feels good too. Wheel bearing is grinding away though, might just change brakes at the same time.
edit: I've been using a GPS speedo app on my phone while the speedo was out. It shows the speedo is off by 4mph consistently. eg., It shows 50 when im doing 46


got a cheap 80Wx4 double din, took the line convertor out and run rca's; to the old faithful 10" bazooka with 200W SSl amp bolted to it. Turns out the alpine 6disc changer in the trunk was working after all, but the cartridges are well used and got stuck some time, plus I need more amps to the speakers; and to amplify


I took the bezel off; have some adjusting to do. Its bolted in there but I have to go back in to set up the dvd, and maybe add a backup camera. Rear visibility is not so good


got blown away by a Haracan and a LFA on Friday, but it's ok


my plastic intake tube is cracked all the way around, someone tried to patch it with silicone, and the screws around the filter are rusted in and rounded out, so who knows how long since it was changed


looking to make a heat shield for it. also need to flush radiator and put new thermostat; rusty water.
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Old 02-19-2017, 06:51 PM   #8
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Incorrect tire size can cause a difference on your speedometer, I tried 55 profile tires back in 09 and there was a difference such as the one you are having. On the other hand a higher profile tire will have your speedometer showing you to be slower than the actual traveling speeds.
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Old 02-19-2017, 07:26 PM   #9
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I think it came with 195/55/15s on it; listed at 23.44 in height. (Which Im not sure is the correct size.) The 205/40/17s I have are listed at 23.46.

http://www.jekylhyderacing.com/HeightofTires.htm

Just by the eyeball test tho, it does look shorter than the ones that came off. But that may be a illusion because of the low profile sidewalls
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I think it came with 195/55/15s on it; listed at 23.44 in height. (Which Im not sure is the correct size.) The 205/40/17s I have are listed at 23.46.

http://www.jekylhyderacing.com/HeightofTires.htm

Just by the eyeball test tho, it does look shorter than the ones that came off. But that may be a illusion because of the low profile sidewalls
I am positive factory size on the EX is 195/60r15 and v6 models use 195/65r15.
Your present tire circumference is 23.5 while the original circumference is 24.2 which is a -2.9% difference. This usually gives folks a false feeling of faster acceleration due to the incorrect speedometer and increased differential gearing caused by the smaller diameter tires, in exchange you are at higher RPM while driving reducing fuel efficiency.
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:18 PM   #11
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Thank you for that info.
So it seems the vss is working as it should (it was a cheap ebay brand)
And if I get 215/40 next time I might get a couple more MPGs

S-bend in stock downpipe


With the new header, I'm going to see if I can modify the downpipe with a slight up angle at the collector to get back my inch of clearance. It's needed


I want to get a little piece welded on to protect that lip from getting caught like the ones on the stock dp
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Old 02-19-2017, 11:32 PM   #12
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215/40r17 would still put you at -1.7, your choices are 205/45r17 which put you at +.4 or 215/45r17 which would put you at +1.7 and is a cheaper size as well.
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Old 02-19-2017, 11:43 PM   #13
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215/45 is one of the most popular sizes around, and tires will be dirt cheap. good for any wheels 7" to 8" wide.
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Old 02-20-2017, 09:58 AM   #14
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215/40r17 would still put you at -1.7, your choices are 205/45r17 which put you at +.4 or 215/45r17 which would put you at +1.7 and is a cheaper size as well.
ok, thing is, that would address the speedometer showing the actual speed, but there are other factors I'm considering as well. Trust me I went through this with the CB7
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=207105
Also, I like how the 215/40's fit the rim (that's what came with them originally) Walmart has federals for like 75 each, and right now I'm getting about 25mpg, and that's with me in test mode; compared to about 18mpg while the header was broken. I could live with it

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215/45 is one of the most popular sizes around, and tires will be dirt cheap. good for any wheels 7" to 8" wide.
still I wouldn't mind filling up that fender well some more, and with those wide hips, I would actually prefer bigger tires over spacers

My first choice as an alternative to the 215/40 though is the 235/40, at 24.4 in height. Tire pressure alone could cause these slight variations in height and MPGs, also tire style and brand. Then you have to factor in added drag and all that

Here is 235/40 on 17 x 7




big federals 235/40 on 17x7.5


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May be due to bias but I used to get federal tires dirt cheap because of my former employer but I was never impressed by them considering there were better choices in the same bracket. Another thing that kept me away from federal was the way they handled their claims, from 2011 to about 2014 they had tires with separation issues and blowouts; instead of recalling the line they "suggested" People limit the use of their tires to a specific size vehicle. Now that I remember they did recall and did away completely with an AT line of tires for tread separation, we used to have 3 racks minimum filled with federal claims for those 3 years.
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Old 02-20-2017, 12:24 PM   #16
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No way that first Miata has 17x7s with those Advan AD08s. 99% sure they are at least 17x8s. Ive seen that picture before.

If you have 17x7.5s, I would not go 235/40, especially if you go Federal. They are just too wide. And when you put that oversize of a tire on a wheel, you will in fact lose some performance out of it. The sidewall will want to roll over on itself, and the handling can feel a bit soft and mushy. 215/45 will be plenty, and the slightly higher sidewall will really help fill in the fender gap.


I had 215/45/17 Federals on my 17x8 5Zigen FN01R-Cs in the past.



You can see on an 8in wide wheel they are almost square. So on a 7.5 they would be completely so. Plus, these are the regular SS595.





I now have 235/40/17 Federal RS-RR on my 17x9 an 8.5 Volks. And as pictures show, they are nearly square, which for a 235 on a 9 almost NEVER happens. I measured them and they are wider than my previous 245/40s I had.

8.5s: perfectly square sidewall


9s: every so slight stretch (can't even really call it a stretch though), which can actually help stiffen the sidewall, and improve handling and steering response.


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Old 02-20-2017, 12:30 PM   #17
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And here is the homie Moises' CB on 17x8 Regas with 235/40 Federals. 8s are the minimum width I'd recommend to run that size on.

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Old 02-20-2017, 02:56 PM   #18
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I've studied your MRT, trust me. You've provided a service to me, lol, as far as wheel fitment for these cars. They say there's more aftermarket support for these cars, but info wise on the internet I find more on the CB. (too many ads on HT; slows my computer). Yours is one of the few 215/45s I've seen that look good, I think because of the ride height, and made me consider the federals. I think federals are just made meatier than the norm too, especially the rs-r's, which makes me think 215/40 might put me just where I want to be

I got droolidge on that last picture. Would you happen to know the offset on those Regas? It has that bulge at the bottom tho I'm trying to avoid with oversized tires. It's going to add a lot of drag too.

I ended up reselling the 235/40's I had without installing them, but the CD5 rear wheel well can fit a lot more wheel in there without poking than the CB
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The wheels are 17x8 +25 (fitment math works out to be the same as 17x9 +35 which is my "golden number" for a functional specs for the CD). And here is my other friend with the same wheels and specs on his CD with 215/45/17s.


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Old 02-21-2017, 10:46 AM   #20
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That looks straight. Definitely. First time seeing that grill, I like what it does to the lights.
Goes good with the lip and mirrors too
I like that fitment. I think I got +35, so I guess 10mm spacers would put me at the same offset.
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