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    2001 civic d17a2 direct swap

    1. I traded a mechanically sound 1996 accord for this pile about three months ago.
    2. If I spent 2000 dollars on this car I still would not want it (auto). Maybe I will change that.
    3. My girlfriend does not like it either(it's her car).
    4.This is what happens when you can't let well enough be.

    So far I have done little things, removed the intake, battery, battery box, I unhooked the wiring harness laid it on the wind shield, removed the front bumper, headlights, loosened axle nuts, removed the wheels and am just about ready for the big stuff.
    Total work time so far 3 hours.
    Well I still have to pull some heater hoses, the radiator, alternator, power steering and figure a way to move the ac to the side without disconnecting the lines if possible. Probably 3 more hours Then it's the big stuff(axles, header from down pipe, transmission linkage which I still have not even looked at and mounts).

    Notes: 1.Its amazing how many sensors have been added to cars from 1991-2001.
    2. I don't need to pay attention to anything because there is a 03 ex parked next to it I could use as a map.
    3. I can't believe how many clips I unhooked last night, luckily I have a map.
    I'm no mechanic, in fact the only tool I own is a 3/8 socket. I do all my work at my dads or my g/f's dads neither of which are mechanics so any advice will be appreciated.
    The motor I'm installing is fairly complete it has the intake and exhaust manifolds in tact with sensors, fuel rail and injectors, thermostat housing ect and oddly helpful a power steering pump as mine was not working below 0 degrees this past winter.
    Well I will get another 1.5 hours in after work tonight and update.

    Update: Does not look at this time I will get the crossmember in the front welded on.
    Removed p/s pump, alt and slid the ac into the front passenger headlight hole as it did work and I will try to save it. I removed the radiator fans, radiator and slid the ac radiator forward. Then got the remaining transmission clips.
    I have only one more harness attachment to remove its near the firewall on the drivers side on the block. It's a piece of work, oh yeah and the harness clip in the timing cover.
    Total work time so far 4.5 hours.
    Remaining, axles , transmission linkage(again I have not looked at), down pipe and mounts.

    Update: broke both bolts from the down pipe to the exhaust manifold. The transmission linkage should have been easy but took basically all day. " just remove the 10mm and slide it off". Well it's off now. The macphearson setup of an 01 makes separating the lower ball joint from the lca a pita. You have to compress the suspension fully the whole time, I used a jack on the brake rotor. I will likely have to remove the strut to put the suspension back together.

    The motor is out, I have three broken mounts I was like sweet the driver side mount was holding the whole thing up. I'm looking into the best urethane to use to fill these bad boys. I've seen threads on here I just need to find them again, or have someone spoon feed me.

    Total work time 11.5 hours

    Last night started game planning the install of the motor, organized bolts and sprayed wd40 everywhere. Filled two of the mounts with windo-weld. It's gonna be solid from what I can tell I hope this motor runs smooth because I will be feeling it now.

    I will take this time to say photobucket does me wrong, for no apparent reason I can't even see the pics I have uploaded to my page, let alone link them to this site. It has always been that way for me no matter which computer/phone I am looking from. It shows me the overview of my library then when I click a picture it freezes. I have managed to get one picture of my cb on here over a year ago and that took some trickery, like 2.5 hours and serious patience. I will download the I pad app tonight and see if that helps....edit still can't post pics.
    Last edited by cb7 calling; 04-23-2014, 07:03 AM. Reason: Update
    ......father in law has it back again. Time to shine

    #2
    Drove it home today. Seems like a strong motor and I'm excited about it. It started in less than 30 seconds. Taking it out was definitely the hard part, familiarity and every bolt having been turned recently makes dropping it in a breeze.
    Total work time 20 hours. Could be 10-15 with familiarity.
    Some of my work time was spent on abnormal problems, engine mount filling, pre existing body damage ect....but then again what swap doesn't have that.

    It's been over a decade since I changed a motor out, now I remember why.

    Well I'm satisfied so far, I feel like it was worth it, and now am looking into suspension and wheels. Tomorrow weather permitting I will paint the front bumper, it's still primer and factory silver. The fenders are silver but not a very good match and after I practice on the bumper those are next.
    I suppose in a few days I will delete this because there are no questions or technological facts. Matt, out.
    ......father in law has it back again. Time to shine

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      #3
      should have k swapped. youd like it more haha
      COUPE K24

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        #4
        While a K-Swap was probably unrealistic for him, an F-Swap would have done him the best justice.
        '94 JDM H22A: 178whp 146wtq

        Originally posted by deevergote
        If you say double dutch rudder, i'm banning you...

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          #5
          I could buy an rsx for cheaper than a k. I researched a little for something that would justify the labor a little better. There is not much for these civics.
          Which f? The f20c?
          ......father in law has it back again. Time to shine

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            #6
            No...an F22Ax
            '94 JDM H22A: 178whp 146wtq

            Originally posted by deevergote
            If you say double dutch rudder, i'm banning you...

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              #7
              Maybe your joking, maybe I'm stupid but from what I understand a k swap would be easier to put in an ep civic at least I'm in the same obd. Being stupid I don't even know which obd that is. I think they do like obd 2.something something . Other than the price of the motor it's like the same job.
              ......father in law has it back again. Time to shine

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                #8
                You know what...I got it now. I was confused by your initial post, or maybe I just had the chassis wrong altogether. You have the ES chassis Civic, the EP3 is the Si only....for some reason I had EK in my mind.

                I talked to Brian @ HaSport a few months back about this model Civic and he told me from his knowledge it's K-Series or bust on this model, unless doing what you did and got another D-Series engine. I was disappointed because I was hoping an F-Series could be made to fit. The issue is the way the mounts sit the engines are "too tall".
                '94 JDM H22A: 178whp 146wtq

                Originally posted by deevergote
                If you say double dutch rudder, i'm banning you...

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                  #9
                  Yeah, the newer they get the harder to swap. I thought you thought it was ek. I didn't make much clear in my initial post and ok es ( extra stupid). I have a worn lower ball joint and a couple bushings on this strut style suspension. I'm about to go look at bushing prices right now I just know they are huge.
                  ......father in law has it back again. Time to shine

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                    #10
                    200 miles in and the motor is still strong. No oil burn, no coolant loss. I ordered a timing belt kit with the water pump I don't know why but I got the gates. A couple of o2 sensors and a rear motor mount. It was fine I thought but I think I broke it on installation. I will probly get the driver side motor mount before I put this timing belt on too. This was my first time ordering from rock auto. I have a question. I was going to order bushings, the only bushing listed for the 2001 civic ex with a matching part number was moog I believe. The little flags of country origin for that part did not have the U.S. Flag there. Just japan. So that made me have reservations. Should I just go by part number?
                    ......father in law has it back again. Time to shine

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