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    gamucci electronic cigs (there are others to)

    http://iwantoneofthose.com/new-arriv...tte/index.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-cigarette

    Supposedly you can get them with or without nicotine. Now they keep saying they are healthier...but this gives the false impression that inhaling nicotine alone is safe....it is not...BUT you don't have the other THOUSANDS of chemicals found in cigarettes going into your lungs.

    For a small kit (cig, battery, charger, some packets) seems to be $89-98 US. Apparently one cartridge is equivalent to 15-20 cigs.

    Even if it's a little more expensive then regular cigs...this IS healthier...but only because of the lack of carcinogens, but it is NOT healthy in itself...but in comparison it is a much better alternative Now if you get the ones with little to no nicotine, then those are even better

    I don't know how well they give the sensation of smoking so that may be why they aren't popular here in the U.S., I have only found sites for overseas locations (UK and asia).

    Not sure if they ship to the US but this site is recommended by the gamucci site (http://www.gamucci.com/gamucci/index.html)
    http://www.smokevapour.com/smokevapour/buy-gamucci.aspx

    http://www.tradekey.com/selloffer_view/id/150004.htm

    info on what the cartridges contain
    http://www.articlesbase.com/technolo...ro-392608.html


    I think these would be an excellent way to quit or just simply NOT get cancer and get your nicotine buzz. They come in different strengths and flavors I think too.

    Of course there is an cig style quit nicotine inhaler, but it is prescription only and it doesn't have the "smoke" that these do. Plus you can't get those in different flavors


    brief info nicotine by itself: Just saying, it alone is a great cause of the negative side effects on the cardiovascular system-it increases the effort the heart has to put out in order to pump blood throughout your body.

    From various sites...
    Nicotine has very powerful effects on arteries throughout the body. Nicotine is a stimulant, speeding up the heart by about 20 beats per minute with every cigarette; it raises blood pressure, and is a vasoconstrictor, making it harder for the heart to pump through the constricted arteries. It causes the body to release its stores of fat and cholesterol into the blood.


    Nicotine binds to acetylcholine receptors in the brain and at autonomic ganglia, the adrenal
    medulla, and the neuromuscular junctions. The specific sites of binding in the brain are the
    hypothalamus, hippocampus, thalamus, midbrain, and brain stem, as well as the cerebral cortex.
    Nicotine also binds to receptors in the nigrostriatal and mesolimbic dopaminergic neurons. When
    nicotine receptors are stimulated, they lead to the release of acetylcholine, norepinephrine,
    dopamine, serotonin, vasopressin, growth hormone, and ACTH neurotransmitters.
    Nicotine triggers a variety of neurotransmitters and is one of the most potent stimulants of the
    midbrain dopamine reward pathway. Nicotine acts on the locus ceruleus, regulating vigilance,
    arousal, concentration and stress reactions, causing the tobacco user to be more alert. Nicotine
    acts on the mesolimbic dopamine center, the brain's "pleasure center," creating a dependency
    cycle. The combination of heightened arousal with a pleasure trigger creates a sense of cyclical
    satisfaction.
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    #2
    Smoke weed, not cancer.
    I never liked cars before my cb7

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      #3
      yea like you said its not readily accesible for us here in the us and me being a smoker going to the gas station and gettin a pack is way easier. but its a interesting concept

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        #4
        Originally posted by Macthc
        Smoke weed, not cancer.
        not that smoking weed doesnt give off a load of other random harmful vapors and shit, but i just never understood the point of smoking tobacco...

        to be honest this device is just a self-perscribed nicotine hit disguised as a cigarette... if you want to cut out all of the harmful sideproducts, wouldnt it be more worthwhile trying the progressively decreasing nicotine patch until you dont have to smoke at all? because with this device youre still feeding the worst part: the addiction. but hey thats just how i see it.


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          #5
          ignoring the weed comment (that's off topic too btw)


          I agree cp[mike], smoking period is stupid. However for folks who are addicted to nicotine this might be another way to help them quit, and they wouldn't need a prescription either. You can get them in varying strengths, plus, you get only the nicotine...and unlike the current nicotine inhaler, this is not Rx only and you get the smoking effect.

          Also, there are a lot of people who want their nicotine and will not quit no matter what...this is a GREAT alternative for them, they can get their nicotine...have the smoke effect...yet reduce their chances of cancer...win win!


          :Cost Effectiveness:
          Only price I could find was a discount cigarette online store, their carton of marlboro reds (200 cigs) is 20.4 after shipping. I believe this to be cheap in comparison to store bought cartons.

          Cost of 200 cigs of marlboro reds is about $20.4 (for a carton that is)
          1000 cigs would then cost you $102 at that price
          the value pack contains 1000 equiv and is about $70... this is $30 less and no cancer...this is refills only.

          if you smoke 2 packs a day that is about 730 cigs a year. 1000 is not an unreasonable amount imo.

          Order them ahead of time and you won't run out...no time or gas wasted going to the store just for cigs...I know you do that guys ...now at the gas station just fill up and leave...no id checking either (eh if you get carded)

          Now for the initial cost (you have to buy a kit of course)
          The classic starter kit only has 100 equiv cigs (plus charger, etc etc) and thus...not cheaper ($60 more than JUST 100 cigs) however after buying just two value pack refills...you come out even...and after 3 you are ahead.

          The value starter kit is 1100 cigs (plus charger, etc etc) and costs about 139 1100 cigs costs 112, the kit costs 139...27 more than cigs...but again...one refill makes up the difference...plus no cancer.

          I thought they would be MUCH more expensive then this...I really thought initial cost would be much higher...it really isn't.


          In the long run this is cheaper.

          It is nearly increasingly cheaper if you take into account your health. Then take into account reduced medical bills, garbage production, horrible odor on you clothes house car...etc etc...car/home resale value...etc etc...and it is quit cost effective.

          At worst they cost as much as cigarettes...with reduced health risks...of course nicotine is a harmful chemical and will eventually cause you to have a heart attack, stroke, or other cardiovascular failure sooner than you would had you not taken in nicotine.
          Last edited by bcjammerx; 05-11-2008, 10:45 PM.
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            #6
            The fact that you can vary the strength of the nicotine cartridge, or have no nicotine content at all, is interesting. A lot of smokers have a hard time quitting with the patch or gum because the physical habit is hard to break. They get the chemical, but they aren't holding a cigarette. Sometimes, the addiction to the physical action of smoking is stronger than the addiction to the chemical itself.


            It's an interesting concept, but I don't think it'll replace smoking for that many people. I think it'll probably become another nicotine delivery system for people that don't currently smoke, but want the feeling. A "safe" way to start smoking, and enjoy the benefits of nicotine (of which there are some... appetite suppression is one that leads many teenage girls to start, the calming effect for stressed people is another)




            The THC cartridge can't be far behind.






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              #7
              Originally posted by deevergote
              The THC cartridge can't be far behind.

              ha.. woopwoop
              I never liked cars before my cb7

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