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    Code 17 plus other problems - PLEASE help!

    i recently bought a '91 accord LX sedan AT and i've got a few problems with it.

    I'm hoping someone can chime in and help me.

    first off, the gas guage is reading above 'F', and i'm pretty sure it's not full.
    2nd, the temp gauge moves all the way up to 'H' and i'm pretty sure it's not overheating (although this gauge DOES move, just stays mostly on the hot side.......AND the radiator fan stays on for a really long time after turning the car off, but i guess that's because the ecu thinks the car is hot (hell, i don't know)
    3rd, the speed shift light constantly blinks
    4th, the speedometer doesn't work
    and lastly, the CEL is on.......reading code 17 (vehicle speed sensor).

    I'm wondering if i REALLY need a VSS sensor or do i need a whole new cluster?

    I have one from a '92 manual........but after reading a few threads, i guess it won't work (since this car is a '91)

    any input would be helpful......thanks!!
    Last edited by buttsneeze; 05-19-2008, 10:43 PM.
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    anybody?

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      #3
      Originally posted by buttsneeze
      anybody?
      You need a VSS.

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        #4
        Originally posted by buttsneeze
        first off, the gas guage is reading above 'F', and i'm pretty sure it's not full.
        2nd, the temp gauge moves all the way up to 'H' and i'm pretty sure it's not overheating (although this gauge DOES move, just stays mostly on the hot side.......AND the radiator fan stays on for a really long time after turning the car off, but i guess that's because the ecu thinks the car is hot (hell, i don't know)
        3rd, the speed shift light constantly blinks
        4th, the speedometer doesn't work
        and lastly, the CEL is on.......reading code 17 (vehicle speed sensor).
        1. The gas gauge isn't completely accurate, I can go about 90 miles before mine starts to go down, and then the 2nd half of the tank is only about 100 miles.

        2. Does it go that high as soon as you start the car? If so, it sounds like you probably need a new gauge sending sensor. It is a one wire sensor that goes into the head. either jy or buy a new one. If it slowly gets up that high over time, then yes, the car might actually be overheating.

        3 and 4 are probably related. Fix the VSS (I've picked one up for $15 at a junkyard), and then clear the ECU and see if they go away.

        The cluster is probably fine. The CEL wouldn't come on if the cluster was messed up.
        Last edited by benji; 05-20-2008, 01:16 PM.
        1992 Prelude S w/swapped H22A

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          [QUOTE=benji]
          Originally posted by buttsneeze
          first off, the gas guage is reading above 'F', and i'm pretty sure it's not full.
          2nd, the temp gauge moves all the way up to 'H' and i'm pretty sure it's not overheating (although this gauge DOES move, just stays mostly on the hot side.......AND the radiator fan stays on for a really long time after turning the car off, but i guess that's because the ecu thinks the car is hot (hell, i don't know)
          3rd, the speed shift light constantly blinks
          4th, the speedometer doesn't work
          and lastly, the CEL is on.......reading code 17 (vehicle speed sensor).
          [/QUOTE

          1. The gas gauge isn't completely accurate, I can go about 90 miles before mine starts to go down, and then the 2nd half of the tank is only about 100 miles.

          2. Does it go that high as soon as you start the car? If so, it sounds like you probably need a new gauge sending sensor. It is a one wire sensor that goes into the head. either jy or buy a new one. If it slowly gets up that high over time, then yes, the car might actually be overheating.

          3 and 4 are probably related. Fix the VSS (I've picked one up for $15 at a junkyard), and then clear the ECU and see if they go away.

          The cluster is probably fine. The CEL wouldn't come on if the cluster was messed up.

          hmm......i wasn't really paying attention to see if the temperature got hot immediately.....it was after a like a five minute ride through town when I noticed the CEL on and that's when i noticed the temp gauge......

          where exactly is the temp gauge sending sensor? also, is the VSS from a manual interchangeable with my auto?

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            Originally posted by buttsneeze
            hmm......i wasn't really paying attention to see if the temperature got hot immediately.....it was after a like a five minute ride through town when I noticed the CEL on and that's when i noticed the temp gauge......

            where exactly is the temp gauge sending sensor? also, is the VSS from a manual interchangeable with my auto?
            The temp gauge sensor is a little one wire (I think it's red) plug that goes into the side of the head, underneath the distributor. It is the only one wire plug under there, it's hard to miss.

            You should just turn your car on, let it sit, and see how long it takes for the gauge to go up. You also might just need to bleed your cooling system, which you should check before swapping parts.

            I'm pretty sure the VSS are interchangeable. I don't know for sure, though, so
            1992 Prelude S w/swapped H22A

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              is the VSS actually on the tranny? i have an extra tranny in my basement.....never really looked at it though (sure would save me a trip BACK to the junkyard)

              .....i'm at work now, though.....so i won't be able to look until later this evening.......

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                Originally posted by buttsneeze
                is the VSS actually on the tranny? i have an extra tranny in my basement.....never really looked at it though (sure would save me a trip BACK to the junkyard)

                .....i'm at work now, though.....so i won't be able to look until later this evening.......

                Yes, it is near the rear motor mount bracket, right on top of where the driver's side axle goes into the tranny.
                1992 Prelude S w/swapped H22A

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                  #9
                  cool........i will check that when i get off....thanks for your help!

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