p14 and f22a6

[theSOB]

ok i did some searching and came across some old threads that proposed the idea of using the p14 ecu with the f22a6 and gaining hp similarly to the p12 with the f22a1/4. It was believed possible because both the h23(what p14 is from) and the f22a6 have IAB. Has anyone confirmed this or experimented yet??

[kirk90]

well the p14 ecu would require a knock sensor I believe and its tuned for a 2.3 liter engine so that would cause the f22a6 to run rich. Correct me if Im wrong?

[theSOB]

bump for any more input

[G&M motorsports]

are the cam gears the some on the a1 a4 and a6 ???

[GearBangnAccord]

just get a p12 to be safe

[theSOB]

just get a p12 to be safe

the reason the p12 wont work is that it is designed for the a1/4 cam and wont gainas much with the a6 cam. also, it can't control the IAB like the pt6 and p14 can.

[G&M motorsports]

I'm new to the site and to CB7s. but i just picked up one of each of these motors a1 a4 and a6 I'm hope to get some ideas of what will make the best motor for my car and lets just say my car never goes passed second gear or 6000 rpm i have a PT3 and PT6 ECU and no cat and no O2

[MikeW]

a6 is superior. You can run a p12 with the a1/a4 and have some gains, but IMO, if you have the a6, just run it. The header on the a4 is about the only useful thing, lol.

[deevergote]

The P14 will offer no gains on the F22A.

The P12 is the ONLY stock ECU that will benefit an F22A, and it will really only benefit the F22A1 and F22A4. Even then, the benefit is minimal.

lets just say my car never goes passed second gear or 6000 rpm i have a PT3 and PT6 ECU and no cat and no O2

So you beat the shit out of your motor with your ECU in limp mode (which is what it will do with no o2 sensor). Smart.

[Tippey764]

well the p14 ecu would require a knock sensor I believe and its tuned for a 2.3 liter engine so that would cause the f22a6 to run rich. Correct me if Im wrong?

Just remember, if you run a p14 on a lama it will look for a knock sensor

[whitecoupe91]

running a p14 will destroy your rod bearings. trashed two engines cause I used it and never got the right ecu, my ignorance costed me. so let my experience guide you...don't do it

[G&M motorsports]

i have the f22a1 bottom end with the f22a6 top end i have removed the butterfly's from the I.T.M. and i put the f22a4 header and an stage 2 cam i don't have an cat or O2 the head has also been shaved the ECU is the pt6 what do you guys think the HP should be with this setup ????????

[deevergote]

Aside from a windage tray in the oil pan, the F22A1 bottom end is 100% identical to the F22A6 bottom end.

With no o2 sensor, you're probably putting down about 70hp to the wheels.
Why the hell would you run wiht no o2 sensor?

[G&M motorsports]

Yes the motor is getting the piss kick out of it... but i use it for an 1/3 mile high banked clay oval track its for racing only it never rolls down the city street so you think I'm only getting 70 HP to the wheels??? will it help to hook up the O2?? or is there a way to make the ECU think that the O2 is hooked up??and will the O2 give me more power??



my 1991 2 door accord with the 5 speed is a runner

[deevergote]

Do you understand the function of the o2 sensor?