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    Spark Plug Wire Problem

    Well, this will take a bit to explain, so here goes.

    My sister drove my car on the coldest day of the year so far, (-20 f) and managed to over heat the thing. (my best assumption is that the rad froze) anyways, now the car wont start. it seems to fire on one cylinder, and nothing else. she obviously blew steam/coolant out... (seems to be empty now, but not 100% on that) covering part of the engine, making things sticky. So far I've tried to pull the plug wires, and got a little success... one slightly melted plug wire housing (the plastic part surrounding the wire) and thats about the best of the 4 wires. the others are in much worse shape... one has the rubber stuck down there... one I pulled the wire right out of the casing entirely and the other broke off part way down. (not the wire, just the plastic part)

    but what I would like to know, is this: is there a decent way that I can get those parts out of the engine short of taking the heads off and pushing the pieces out?

    Also... is there anything else that I should look for in terms of damage, so I can go fix it so I dont have to rely on other people for transport?
    Last edited by Skidd; 02-01-2012, 12:48 AM.
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    Originally posted by Skidd View Post
    Well, this will take a bit to explain, so here goes.

    My sister drove my car on the coldest day of the year so far, (-20 f) and managed to over heat the thing. (my best assumption is that the rad froze) anyways, now the car wont start. it seems to fire on one cylinder, and nothing else. she obviously blew steam/coolant out... (seems to be empty now, but not 100% on that) covering part of the engine, making things sticky. So far I've tried to pull the plug wires, and got a little success... one slightly melted plug wire housing (the plastic part surrounding the wire) and thats about the best of the 4 wires. the others are in much worse shape... one has the rubber stuck down there... one I pulled the wire right out of the casing entirely and the other broke off part way down. (not the wire, just the plastic part)

    but what I would like to know, is this: is there a decent way that I can get those parts out of the engine short of taking the heads off and pushing the pieces out?

    Also... is there anything else that I should look for in terms of damage, so I can go fix it so I dont have to rely on other people for transport?
    whoa there, just use some long needle nose pliers. no need to take the head off.
    Originally posted by Mishakol129
    Do not disrespect my intelligence. I am the smartest person I know : )

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      #3
      yeah, which is why I asked. I don't WANT to take the heads off. that's quite a bit of work... but honestly, the car would probably benefit from it. but I digress.

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        #4
        It's an inline 4 cylinder engine... just one head.

        Needle-nose pliers will work best, agreed. Perhaps a high-powered vacuum to suck up any plastic pieces you can't get to.

        If the engine overheated, the head may be warped and will need to come off anyway... however, it's best to avoid doing that unless you're experienced in such things. You'll need to follow a specific torquing order to remove and reinstall the head (found in any quality manual). Removing the head will require replacing the head gasket at the very least... and replacing the valve cover gasket, cam seals, timing belt, and water pump in the process would be VERY smart. If the head is warped, it will also need to be machined (hopefully it can be saved without taking off too much material.) It can get expensive and involved fairly quickly.






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          Originally posted by deevergote View Post
          It's an inline 4 cylinder engine... just one head.

          Needle-nose pliers will work best, agreed. Perhaps a high-powered vacuum to suck up any plastic pieces you can't get to.

          If the engine overheated, the head may be warped and will need to come off anyway... however, it's best to avoid doing that unless you're experienced in such things. You'll need to follow a specific torquing order to remove and reinstall the head (found in any quality manual). Removing the head will require replacing the head gasket at the very least... and replacing the valve cover gasket, cam seals, timing belt, and water pump in the process would be VERY smart. If the head is warped, it will also need to be machined (hopefully it can be saved without taking off too much material.) It can get expensive and involved fairly quickly.
          (sorry about the mistype there, meant to take the "s" off of "heads" during my once over... obviously I missed that)

          Oi NOT what I need to hear. Maybe I can get her running and just sell the car... and hopefully that guy can put the time and effort it needs to bring it back to life. Not that I haven't pulled apart the car before; the engine in it is a a6. It used to have a way run down a1 in it. But now, I don't have a whole ton of $$ to go around right now you know? I don't suppose you would know an average price it would take to get the head honed?

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            I don't know... never had it done myself.

            You could probably find a decent F22A for less than it would take to get the engine repaired... IF the head is warped. It may not be, so get the crap out of the spark plug holes and find out first. Overheating will very often blow the head gasket, and since the F22A head is aluminum, it warps fairly easily when heated. Sometimes it's ok, other times it must be repaired or replaced.

            The F22A engines are all the same. The differences between an A1 and an A6 are all bolted on: intake manifold, exhaust manifold, camshaft, valve springs (not REALLY necessary...), windage tray in the oil pan (also not really necessary), and ECU. The head and block castings, as well as the internals and valves, are all identical.






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              Originally posted by Skidd View Post
              (sorry about the mistype there, meant to take the "s" off of "heads" during my once over... obviously I missed that)

              Oi NOT what I need to hear. Maybe I can get her running and just sell the car... and hopefully that guy can put the time and effort it needs to bring it back to life. Not that I haven't pulled apart the car before; the engine in it is a a6. It used to have a way run down a1 in it. But now, I don't have a whole ton of $$ to go around right now you know? I don't suppose you would know an average price it would take to get the head honed?
              The head shop around here charges around $60 to mil the head flat.
              Originally posted by Mishakol129
              Do not disrespect my intelligence. I am the smartest person I know : )

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