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    h22a auto vs manual

    hello guys, im about to replace my faulty h22a on my cb7 and before i go and buy just about anything i wanna make sure about something...
    i just called a motor shop and they told me they only had 1 h22a in stock and it was coming out of an auto transmission car and that it had only 170hp...
    ive heard before that auto h22a had less hp then its manual couterpart and ive done lots of research on forums (including here) but all info i found was either very old or was post with people arguing about what they think...

    so im asking here hoping someone that ''knows'' could answer me rather then someone who ''thinks'' he knows...

    so...are there any differences in the internals that makes an auto h22a less powefull then a manual h22a?

    MRT: http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=201008
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    I think you are refering to the F20b. I think all h22a are 200.

    I think.

    steve

    F20b
    http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=30013

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      #3
      H22As are identical from manual to automatic. If a shop says otherwise, stay away. They don't even know what they're selling!

      The F20B is the only one that varied between auto and manual (180ps vs 200ps... hp numbers are slightly less than those.)

      NO H or F engine is rated at 170hp.






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        #4
        when he told me 170hp i was like...hummmm ok..... i know no h22s are rated 170 hp but he put doubt in my mind as to if there wer any differences within the engine itself...dont want to buy a motor and then realize that i got the wrong one

        i also figured if there wer any differences they would most likely be on the intake manifold or the throttlebody...wich i can swap for the ones i have in the car right now
        because the info on h22a on wikipedia suggests that there are indeed some differences between h22s..
        H22A
        Found in the Japanese 4th gen Prelude Si VTEC (2WS BB4 & 4WS BB1). It produces 200 PS (147 kW; 197 hp) @ 6,800 rpm & 161.50 ft·lbf (218.96 N·m) @ 5,500 rpm and comes with a black valvecover.
        Found in the Japanese 5th gen Prelude SiR (2WS BB6 & 4WS BB8). It produces 200 PS (147 kW; 197 hp) @ 6,800 rpm & 161 ft·lbf (218 N·m) @ 5,500 rpm and comes with a black valvecover.
        Found in the Japanese 5th gen Prelude Type-S and SiR S-Spec (BB6). It produces 220 PS (162 kW; 217 hp) @ 7,200 rpm & 163 ft·lbf (221 N·m) @ 6,500 rpm and comes with a red valvecover.
        Found in the Japanese 6th gen Accord/Torneo Euro-R (CL1). It produces 220 PS (162 kW; 217 hp) @ 7,200 rpm & 163 ft·lbf (221 N·m) @ 6,500 rpm and comes with a red valvecover.
        Found in the Japanese 5th gen Accord SiR Sedan (CD6). It produces 190 PS (140 kW; 187 hp) @ 6,800 rpm & 152 ft·lbf (206 N·m) @ 5,500 rpm and comes with a black valvecover.
        Found in the Japanese 5th gen Accord SiR Coupe (CD7). It produces 190 PS (140 kW; 187 hp) @ 6,800 rpm & 152 ft·lbf (206 N·m) @ 5,500 rpm and comes with a black valvecover.
        Found in the Japanese 5th gen Accord SiR Wagon (CF2). It produces 190 PS (140 kW; 187 hp) @ 6,800 rpm & 152 ft·lbf (206 N·m) @ 5,500 rpm and comes with a black valvecover.

        how do i tell the difference between the 190hp one and the 197hp one?
        Last edited by Cb7_Qc; 08-19-2013, 11:21 PM.

        MRT: http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=201008

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          #5
          The 190ps (187hp) versions are the Accord Sir engines, which MIGHT be due to the ECU (they don't run a P13 like the Prelude), but I'm not certain. They're rather uncommon. Most H22As will be from Preludes. Other than the ECU, or the word of the shop, I wouldn't know how to tell the difference.
          The USDM H22A1 is also 190hp. Obviously, that will be stamped H22A1.

          That relatively minor difference in power won't really even be felt, though.






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            #6
            Originally posted by Digitalpop
            A H22 is a H22 auto or manual, the only real thing that changes is the driver.
            This comment is so rediculous.I've seen you post on almost every thread here with no real knowledge or advice. Whoring threads to raise your post count is forbidden so I would calm down until you have some USEFUL information to provide.
            Last edited by Dy2*STR33T-KING; 08-22-2013, 01:02 AM.
            I wake up in the morning and piss excellence!

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              #7
              I don't think all H22's are closed decks.
              Mine if I remember correct was a H22a4 and it had a closed deck, It was built to be a higher compression motor.

              If at all possible I'd try to get the closed deck, for me, it's worth the peace of mind not to have cylinder shift at high rpms.
              I wish Honda had put iron sleeves in these. It would have still been light and made for a great oem platform, for aftermarket parts.
              "Self Renewed"

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