Completly confused..Hks Filter

[DjSpeedy]

Ok so i just bought one of these filters off eBay. It is the real hks not that 2 dollar knock off. I am reading though that people say it filters like shit and what not. What I dont undertsnad is if it is such a junk filter than why are some of the top japan race teams running them on their setups? I mean it cant be that shitty if The top teams use them.

I am confused because I thought I was getting the top filter out there but it looks like I might have just bought the biggest P.O.S.

[Lemniscate]

I've heard a lot of things about them too

such as little bits of the foam get sucked through, they're restrictive... etc

truth is they can't be as bad as they say they are as they seem to be isolated cases
and they're pretty good to use if you're strapped for space in the engine compartment

[NAiL05]

The HKS Foam FIlter does have shitty filtering characteristics but flow wise it flows really well since well it doesnt filter well. Most people use them because they are good for turbo applications when you need max flow and it catches the bigger particles and what not. Plus japanese racing teams rebuild there motors every now and then so they can use a free'r flowing filter. The HKS one is decent but it just filters like crap.

[DjSpeedy]

In theory it all makes sense. Even hks says they use a very open design, but they have it oiled to catch the smaller stuff, so I guess it is like K&n, in that as long as its oiled its good, but take out the oil and it filter poorly.

As far as restrictive goes thats just not true. They are the least restrictive of all the filters. Well We'll see how it works I guess.

[NAiL05]

HKS Foam Filters are dry type filters so no oil required. I prefer a dry type filter over an oiled one anyday.

[wed3k]

just get an Apexi and call it a day

[gofaster]

are we talking bout the little green dome-shaped things that I see everywhere? I have no personal experience with them personally but you would think that a product that sucks wouldn't have the poplarity that it has. Its popularity infact could be its downfall. Those people talking bad about them could have gotten knock-offs. Over in the motorcycle world we had a nice scandal about companies scamming people with Dyno-Jet Power commanders that look like the real McCoy but suck major donkey balls. It could just be a very good scam that people have been caught up in. I mean how hard is it to make foam filters or an intake?

[SteveB]

What I dont undertsnad is if it is such a junk filter than why are some of the top japan race teams running them on their setups? I mean it cant be that shitty if The top teams use them.

You are not a top race team, and therefore have different priorities than they do.

1. Their engine needs to last until the finish line, no more than 3 hours away, whereupon cubic meters of money will be thrown at it to make it all perfect again.
You?

2. They get sponsorship money from HKS.
You?

3. There livelihood *may* depend on that last perceived horsepower, at the expense of engine life. See #1 above.
You?

[DjSpeedy]

I think everyone here makes a really valid point and I appreciate the input. i do think in some way though that the knockoffs are what is killing the hks name. Some idiot kid by a 5 dollar one of eBay not knowing any better and when it messes up the car, the kid goes on a rant on what shit it is.

Take any great company and at some time someone has made a copy of the design, that was pure shit. I have never seen a true greddy filter on ebay, and even the apexi website has a warning of a knockoff that looks the part to a T, so does tein springs.

At least some people have the knowledge that if it doesnt cost a lot its prolly not the real thing.

[Cb7X3]

Anyhting on ebay are knowck offs, not really but its hard to find authetic items..

[DjSpeedy]

Mines def not a knock off I know that much.

[NAiL05]

Nope there was a test between a genuine HKS foam vs Apexi and the HKS sucked up a crap load of dirt. As for the Apexi it didnt suck much up and flowed pretty well. My friend also had an HKS foam on his civic was nice while it lasted.

[DjSpeedy]

So what died the civic or the filter? Damnit now everyone has got me nervous!!