SuperCharger????????

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superchargers also take some of your hp to make hp because they run on a belt. turbos make power, superchargers take power. i was told that you can build 2 exact motors the same except one is turbo and the other is supercharged and the turbo engine will make alot more hp.

That's a fairly ignorant statement. It IS true that superchargers are parasitic, and use power to make power. However, if you have a 400whp supercharged car vs a 400whp turbo car, the supercharged car may have the advantage. The turbo needs time to spool, the supercharger is relatively instant. Of course, on a FWD car, that isn't always a good thing. Too much power from a dig causes wheelspin. The gradual swell of power from a turbo is better suited.

The only reason to superchage a CB7 is to be unique. The cost involved makes it fairly impractical. For the same money, a very responsive turbo system making more power is possible. Regardless, supercharging isn't a bad option, and can still make one hell of a street car.

[yellaboi]

... The Jackson Racing unit for the H series can be used with a swap, as mentioned above (with some custom work),...

It could also be put on an A6 or other Fseries w/ A6 manifold with the same amount of fabrication. But the key word is fabrication. I agree that the supercharger would really not be worth it. The cost of the charger alone is more that a comparable turbo setup(powerwise). And a turbo is so much easier to install and has more potential.

[Mez]

turbo is a better set-up for a 4 banger... trust me i wanted a super charger also but when i saw the price i was like ... i can make the same or more power with a turbo..

[NAiL05]

turbo is a better set-up for a 4 banger... trust me i wanted a super charger also but when i saw the price i was like ... i can make the same or more power with a turbo..

A turbo can be just as expensive if not more expensive than a supercharger...

[Mez]

A turbo can be just as expensive if not more expensive than a supercharger...

im talkin about finacially a supercharger is more expensive then a turbo.. you can find a turbo for less than than $1000 and make power.. tell me what supercharger you can find for $1000????

[rickyduckworth]

the prelude chargers *supposedly* dont clear the accord firewall.

they don't clear it on the cb7 with any of the f or h series motors. by about an inch

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Have you seen the video of the guy in Canada running the JRSC on an H23? (may be an H23 VTEC, I forget...) It CAN be done, but I don't know what he had to do to make it work. Unfortunately, he's not a memeber here.

[NAiL05]

im talkin about finacially a supercharger is more expensive then a turbo.. you can find a turbo for less than than $1000 and make power.. tell me what supercharger you can find for $1000????

Go to a junkyard and make your own. Someone did that for an F series in a 5th gen already. Its more work but its doable. And a 1000 turbo system...not a good thing to invest into unless you knwo the parts are quality. Anyway JSRC is a name brand. So if you wanna compare them you have to go with a name brand turbo company aka HKS, Apexi, or GReddy. Of course making it yourself would be cheaper everyone knows that or most people at least.

[yellaboi]

Go to a junkyard and make your own. Someone did that for an F series in a 5th gen already. Its more work but its doable. And a 1000 turbo system...not a good thing to invest into unless you knwo the parts are quality. Anyway JSRC is a name brand. So if you wanna compare them you have to go with a name brand turbo company aka HKS, Apexi, or GReddy. Of course making it yourself would be cheaper everyone knows that or most people at least.

Mitsubishi is a name brand also. They manufacture turbos as well as cars. Granted they don't make turbo kit but at the same time you are mentioning junkyard superchargers. You can buy a new mitsu turbo just like you can buy a new greddy,hks, turbonetics, etc...

your post is stating that a supercharger can be done cheap if you get one from a junkyard. Well so can a turbo. yes you need to know the parts are quality but that goes the same for the junkyard supercharger. Plus a junkyard dsm turbo setup is 85% bolt on. And you admitted your self that a supercharger ismore work. Fabrication is expensive.

[yellaboi]

Also I personally have tried the JRSC on CB route a few years back on a friends car before I even got a CB and it didn't seem to work. The firewall is very close but that may not be the problem. After seeing the guy's car who did it. I think maybe the brake lines and possible the mastercylinder and prop valves may the in the way. I tried to talk to that guy but never got a response. but it looks like he rebend the brake lines and maybe altered the pulleys on the SC.

Also the bracket that holds the SC to the manifold is very thick. It may be possible to shave it down some to get more clearance to the firewall. I have a pic somewhere

here's a pic the bracket is red

[Pandemic]

turbo > supercharger.

First, both are paracitic. Super charger = belt driven thus takes power, turbo = restricts exhaust flow thus takes power.

With the right wastegate and sequential turbo setup you could replicate a supercharger easy peasy. Cost? well sure that'd be a pretty penny.

Everything aside, a turbo is better because it throws more -cool- air into the engine. I suppose its possible to intercool a supercharger but... i've never heard of it.


With that in mind...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URVCj4WYyKQ

[NAiL05]

Mitsubishi is a name brand also. They manufacture turbos as well as cars. Granted they don't make turbo kit but at the same time you are mentioning junkyard superchargers. You can buy a new mitsu turbo just like you can buy a new greddy,hks, turbonetics, etc...

your post is stating that a supercharger can be done cheap if you get one from a junkyard. Well so can a turbo. yes you need to know the parts are quality but that goes the same for the junkyard supercharger. Plus a junkyard dsm turbo setup is 85% bolt on. And you admitted your self that a supercharger ismore work. Fabrication is expensive.

Everything aside, a turbo is better because it throws more -cool- air into the engine. I suppose its possible to intercool a supercharger but... i've never heard of it.

As I was responding I know you can do a mitsu setup for a G. He was comparing that to a JSRC so I said the supercharger is the same concept you can go to a yard and do some minor fab to get it to work. Someone on here already has one setup. Not sure if its working yet but all I know the dude is somewhere in florida as I recall. You can intercool a supercharger....Look on the 03-05 cobras. There are also aftercooelrs and all that crap for superchargers that act somewhat like an intercooler for superchargers. its obvious a turbo will do better than a supercharger but it also has its pros and cons just like the charger. Next thing why would you want to put a sequential setup on a 4 banger. Yes its been done on HMT but why when you can squeeze the same amount of power with a single. Also the benefit of that twin setup was more midrange and quite a bit of fabrication required. Supras used it and I think RX-7 also. The only one that I know that wasnt sequential was the 300zx TT. You can also throw more cool air in with a charger depending on which one you use. And as I said thats why they have aftercoolers on some cars kits to help with the charge temps.