h22 or 11:1 f22

[jdm92_accorn]

i have a chance to get an h22a for a good deal with less than 35,000 miles. my grandma is tired of her prelude. she saw the new accord coupe and wants one. she said i could have her prelude for $2200. but my dart sleeves just come in for my f22. i dont know what to do. i'd like to see what an f22 would do with 11:1's. a prelude type-s make 220hp with 11:1 at the flywheel, what would an f22 make at the flywheel with the same compression. probably close to the same and if not it can't be too much less.

[jdm92_accorn]

the real question is which one gives you more bragging rights

[Accord R33]

the real question is which one gives you more bragging rights

Ok there Brian O'conner.


If you already have Dartons coming in, just spend the money on the F22. There has been a pretty big F22 revolution lately. I think the true potential of it has yet to be realized.

[quickangel93]

you could build up the f22 bottom and use the h22 head.

[deevergote]

Build the F22... get the Prelude as a daily driver while you build the Accord

[Jarrett]

Yeah man if you can get an H22 Prelude for $2200 then that's your daily driver right there. Or at least clean it up and sell it for more than you paid.

[wed3k]

Arias 12:1 pistons ftw

[rudy1980]

sell the sleeves. Then swap the entire drivetrains, keep the f22 lude as a DD or sell it, you got a H22 cb7 190Hp and Honda reliability and a better base to build on if that's not enough power. Running 11:1 is just asking for trouble imo especially when you started with 8:1

[Yossarian]

sell the sleeves. Then swap the entire drivetrains, keep the f22 lude as a DD or sell it, you got a H22 cb7 190Hp and Honda reliability and a better base to build on if that's not enough power. Running 11:1 is just asking for trouble imo especially when you started with 8:1

I'm not sure i agree with that...Especially if you are sleeving, building the motor properly. I cant see the point in swapping the h22 out of the lude though. If its in good shape i would prolly drive that.

Well...I would strip it and tweak the motor out. Build an all-motor auto-x prelude on the cheap. That way when I put it into the wall i wont be so pissed

[cb7rider]

Ok there Brian O'conner.


If you already have Dartons coming in, just spend the money on the F22. There has been a pretty big F22 revolution lately. I think the true potential of it has yet to be realized.

i completely agree
i wanna swap, but i wanna build the f22 up(maybe even turbo) and prove wat i can really do

[bcjammerx]

I've seen a lot of people try to build f22's...their reasoning is always "If I build it right it will work" but the simple fact is...the f22 is not a performance engine...you will have to change every single part...but even still...one guy spent thousands rebuilding, sleeving, blue printing, turbo...etc etc...only to have a rod bearing spin...he scrapped the whole thing.

The other question...how many performance parts are there for the f22 versus the h22? Since the h22 is a more popular build and since it is more towards performance it will be much easier to find parts to build it.

You can do it...but don't expect any crazy numbers at all...it's just not worth it. The h22 is built a little different too but...hmm...I would drive one while building the other...also

the prelude has better handling from stock...you could build the cb7 but again...giving numbers to performance...when you start at a 8 it's easier to reach 10 then if you start at a 5

[HondaFan81]

Build the F22... get the Prelude as a daily driver while you build the Accord

I was thinking same thing, project cars will always have SOME problems.

[HondaFan81]

I've seen a lot of people try to build f22's...their reasoning is always "If I build it right it will work" but the simple fact is...the f22 is not a performance engine...you will have to change every single part...but even still...one guy spent thousands rebuilding, sleeving, blue printing, turbo...etc etc...only to have a rod bearing spin...he scrapped the whole thing.

That occurred from loss of lubrication/excessive heat, which is a result of a bad build. ANY engine can be built, you just have to know what to improve, if it needs it.

Even stock engines spin bearings, this mean they built bad? Lack of maintenance is another cause as well.

[ilovemycb7]

Whatever you do, definitely get the h22 lude for such a great price.

[rudy1980]

I've seen a lot of people try to build f22's...their reasoning is always "If I build it right it will work" but the simple fact is...the f22 is not a performance engine...you will have to change every single part...but even still...one guy spent thousands rebuilding, sleeving, blue printing, turbo...etc etc...only to have a rod bearing spin...he scrapped the whole thing.

The other question...how many performance parts are there for the f22 versus the h22? Since the h22 is a more popular build and since it is more towards performance it will be much easier to find parts to build it.


That's what I was saying. bcjammrex just said it much better