mixing clear coat with paint..

[Shadow1]

can it be done with paint you have to add thinner to?

[heero357]

what r u trying 2 accomplish?

[Shadow1]

what r u trying 2 accomplish?

painting my car without having to do the clear coat as a separate coat. if its possible. i would like to put the clear coat in WITH the paint so all i have to do is a final wet sand and buff.

[Supergenius]

painting my car without having to do the clear coat as a separate coat. if its possible. i would like to put the clear coat in WITH the paint so all i have to do is a final wet sand and buff.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no.

[TypeG]

i think you can as long as it's the same type of paint ie, lacquer, enamel, ect.

why not just paint it a with single stage paint? later.

[jimy]

Its called a stage one painting proccess. Most places sells them like this. Macco paints cars like this for their cheap packages.

Clear and base are all one coat. Only down fall is that you will not be able wax or clean the car with touch up. No wet sanding is nessaccary.

The two stage is base then clear. This would require you to wet sand then polish. It'll take much longer and more expensive but in the end if something were to happen, you would just throw on some wax and clean polished it up.

[oneoffaccord]

just like he said^^^^ nuff said

[TypeG]

Only down fall is that you will not be able wax or clean the car with touch up. No wet sanding is nessaccary.

i think you are mistaken. why would you not be able to wax a single stage. they also wet sand and buff single stage paint jobs. your red car is a single stage paint. later.

[jimy]

Yes, and have you tried using a high speed polisher on your car to see what happens to the pad?

[Shadow1]

i think you can as long as it's the same type of paint ie, lacquer, enamel, ect.

why not just paint it a with single stage paint? later.

what do you mean by same type? can clear coat come in different types? im new to this. lol.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no.

if your not going to offer any help. dont post in my thread. just saying "hahahahahahaha no" and no explanation isnt help.

Its called a stage one painting proccess. Most places sells them like this. Macco paints cars like this for their cheap packages.

Clear and base are all one coat. Only down fall is that you will not be able wax or clean the car with touch up. No wet sanding is nessaccary.

The two stage is base then clear. This would require you to wet sand then polish. It'll take much longer and more expensive but in the end if something were to happen, you would just throw on some wax and clean polished it up.

so do i wet sand, polish then clear coat. or clear coat, wet sand, then clear?

[jimy]

Let me rephrase it. You can help keep the stage one clear from defect with waxing the car. But then you deal with all the cracking and swirling on a car. The two stage paint lets you get rid of all scratches, swirls and spider cracks since its not infused in with the paint. Its a whole new layer.

That is why you can wet sand the clear off and reclear. If you don't believe me, try to wet sand your car right now and and try to apply wax on it to see if you get the same shine.

[Shadow1]

Let me rephrase it. You can help keep the stage one clear from defect with waxing the car. But then you deal with all the cracking and swirling on a car. The two stage paint lets you get rid of all scratches, swirls and spider cracks since its not infused in with the paint. Its a whole new layer.

That is why you can west sand the clear of and reclear. If you don't believe me, try to wet sand your car right now and and try to apply wax on it to see if you get the same shine.

so wet sand, buff, then clear? then wet sand the clear then reclear?

[jimy]

what do you mean by same type? can clear coat come in different types? im new to this. lol.


so do i wet sand, polish then clear coat. or clear coat, wet sand, then clear?

clear comes in a variety of type. Pearl, tainted colors, flakes, and so on. What you would just use is regular base clear coat.

Correct way is, primer, base, clear, wet sand, and then polish.

If you buy a stage one package, all you would do is primer and spray the base on. It'll have its natural shine already.

[Shadow1]

clear comes in a variety of type. Pearl, tainted colors, flakes, and so on. What you would just use is regular base clear coat.

Correct way is, primer, base, clear, wet sand, and then polish.

If you buy a stage one package, all you would do is primer and spray the base on. It'll have its natural shine already.

ok. cool. so what grit should i use on the clear? how long should i wait for the clear to dry?

[jimy]

Oh and if you start having paint chips, you wouldn't be able to have quality repair with a stage one job.

putting on the touchup and then applying clear would work but the other part of the car will shine differently.