nitrous

[Fearit22]

Yes, it is different, but if you look at jet sizing charts they are decided based on each engine. So it will vary a tiny bit like I already said, but they have already figured out the drivetrain losses on each individual car and adjusted the jet size accordingly. They are all going to vary like I said before but 75 horsepower is a lot better estimate for a 75 horsepower shot than your estimate of like 40 horsepower. It's always pretty easy to adjust your bottle temperature or other settings to get it to that horsepower rating without changing jets too.

[jboyce]

Ok, i've read a lil about it, and i wanna run spray. I'm thinking 75 shot NX Wet. I need to get colder plugs, and retard the ignition timing. i'm thinking NGK BKR7E plugs, MSD Digital 6+. then i was also thinking a new fuel pump...walbro 190 or 255lph. i also need a bottle warmer cause i live in a cold area. and i wanna upgrade my clutch as. this is all considering the compression in my engine, how do i check it...i have a 93 accord lx manual with 150k miles. Should i go for the NX wet spray, or the ZEX Dry? or are there any other good companies? I think the dry shot will be safer...but i heard wet distributes more evenly throughout the vavles....?

Anything else i should know, and where can i buy all this shit, and what kinda WHP am i looking at?

[SoySauceCb7]

here we go again. Im done trying to help, peace....

[jboyce]

What did i do =( i did what you said, i read about it. and i want it now.

[Fearit22]

Originally posted by jboyce
Ok, i've read a lil about it, and i wanna run spray. I'm thinking 75 shot NX Wet. I need to get colder plugs, and retard the ignition timing. i'm thinking NGK BKR7E plugs, MSD Digital 6+. then i was also thinking a new fuel pump...walbro 190 or 255lph. i also need a bottle warmer cause i live in a cold area. and i wanna upgrade my clutch as. this is all considering the compression in my engine, how do i check it...i have a 93 accord lx manual with 150k miles. Should i go for the NX wet spray, or the ZEX Dry? or are there any other good companies? I think the dry shot will be safer...but i heard wet distributes more evenly throughout the vavles....?

Anything else i should know, and where can i buy all this shit, and what kinda WHP am i looking at?

Your plans sound good. Retarding the timing is an extra safety measure, but I left mine stock. NX or Zex are both good companies so you'll be fine either way. If you want to do a compression check go to autozone or oreillys and they will rent you out a thing to do it ... I think they do it for free too. The thing about whp was already addressed. Go with the Walbro 255 ... It won't hurt anything going with a larger pump.

[jboyce]

thanks for the help, ill run the wet spray with new pump and cold plugs, what should i use to retard the ignition timing?

[h22sparkle]

a timing light with the wrenches to turn back the distributor to the firewall after you loosen the bolts to make sure that the marks line up

[brawl]

In my personal opinion, if i was to go with juice, i'd use NX's wet system. dry systems are cheaper and easier to hook up, however they are not as safe to run as a wet system...wet systems give you a better fuel/nitrous mixture for a cleaner burn. i personally had a friend who used ZEX's dry system and got a little over zealous with it and he regretted it when his #4 piston was in 3 pieces and severe block scoring with all the ringlands burnt to shit. I agree with the others and at least get some way of monitoring what is going on with your motor, for example an A/F gauge. its not going to give you the most precise readings since we use narrow band o2 sensors, but its better than blindly guessing. As far as your compression goes, i would make it a point to have that done before even considering nitrous...if all 4 cylinders check out evenly, you'll be good but if one even slightly falls lower than the other 3, you will know when you use n2o which one couldn't take it.

Just another way to think, if you're looking for cheap power, n2o is the cheapest, but remember you have to refill that bottle every time you want that power back...alot of people have actually taken the route of saving up some extra cash and doing a motor swap...there's a good amount of motors that bolt in, and thats horsepower that you constantly have. Check out what alot of the guys have on this site and other sites and see what most have to say. it seems like alot of money to be forking out but it honestly is one of the smartest routes to go when it comes to modification with reliability. I know i've had my motor swap for the past 2 years and it was probably the best modification i've done yet...plus since so many people have been looking for swaps, motor prices are actually lower than what they've used to be. My personal recommendation would be looking into a swap since it would kind of help ya out from what you're looking for...you can get an H22 with at least an extra 60+hp over what you have plus alot lower miles for reliability and constant power at your access.

Soysauce and fearit both are right about what they've told ya, so you can decide what you want to do...but i would read alot more about the total potential of the car, not just what one thing can do for ya.

just my .02

[alb_accord]

damn soy got mad. lol what's up soy? don't mind him he is building his engine. loll
but he is right though.
just search a little bit more. ask more questions. and if nintro is what u want then go ahead and get it. the u can get good power out of it. but as said above if u don't know how to use u gona fuck up ur engine.
bottom end its alll up to u man. talk to some of the guys who have turbos h22 and n2o. see what they say and then make up ur mind.
good luck with it.

[Bluejayde]

This may be a little off topic, but I just don't get why people want to run nitrous unless they are drag racing on a regular basis. You have to retard you timing, so your car is slower than it was before unless you're using the spray, and who wants to drive at WOT all the time? I can see its uses as a turbo supplement for a drag car, but for a daily driver it just seems "retarded". I don't mean to attack anyone with nitrous, and if you have a different opinion, please express it.

[SoySauceCb7]

Originally posted by Bluejayde
This may be a little off topic, but I just don't get why people want to run nitrous unless they are drag racing on a regular basis. You have to retard you timing, so your car is slower than it was before unless you're using the spray, and who wants to drive at WOT all the time? I can see its uses as a turbo supplement for a drag car, but for a daily driver it just seems "retarded". I don't mean to attack anyone with nitrous, and if you have a different opinion, please express it.

Thanks Muah!

[brawl]

I think the only reason he's wanting to run nitrous is the same reason most people do...Most bang for your buck...I agree with your thoughts about nitrous but alot of people who have these cars typically dont make loads of cash...if they did, they would probably move up to cars that have alot more potential from the door than ours. But to each their own about what they want to do with their cars. Only we can do is express our opinions.

[Fearit22]

Originally posted by Bluejayde
This may be a little off topic, but I just don't get why people want to run nitrous unless they are drag racing on a regular basis. You have to retard you timing, so your car is slower than it was before unless you're using the spray, and who wants to drive at WOT all the time? I can see its uses as a turbo supplement for a drag car, but for a daily driver it just seems "retarded". I don't mean to attack anyone with nitrous, and if you have a different opinion, please express it.

Like I said you really don't have to retard the timing. It's just another safety measure, and I choose to run higher octane fuel rather than mess with the timing. I really don't see your point though. Even if you had a turbo you wouldn't race it around everyday. The power would be there all the time, but if you use it too often then you are going to take your engine life away with the quickness. Yeah, it is a little bit of a pain to turn on and off the bottle and what not, but for me it's just a reminder of how I shouldn't waste my time racing lame ass cars and beating up my engine unless it's actually worth my time. I agree with the money factor though. I would still have nitrous if I had a lot of bling to spend on my car, but I definitely would have built a bad ass turbo set up first.

[NoSloCB7]

Some people believe retarding the timing leads to power loss. This is true on domestic v8's who have terrible combustion chamber designs and a wide area to compress the fuel. Honda engines have the "Pent Roof" design which has two good "squish areas" which push the air/fuel mixture toward the center of the combustion chamber. By doing so, the air/fuel mixture is pressed toward the spark plug and allows for efficient fuel atomization and a high speed flame front. With the design of the honda combustion chambers, you do not need a huge timing lead to produce power.