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F22 Ideas, anyone?

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    F22 Ideas, anyone?

    Okay. First off, I hope this is the right forum to post this in. Now, time to get down to the questions...
    As some of you may know, I'm planning on building my '92 LX's F22. But, the first step in doing that would be to have a plan of attack. The reason for this post would be to get some feedback and ideas on what kind of plan would be best for me at this point.
    So far, here is the situation: I own a '92, four door automatic ( I know, it's sad... ) Accord LX. The mods I've done so far include the following:
    1. Keept the stock air intake tube but replaced the filter box with a cone style filter. This includes removing all of the stock plastic filter box and air chambers ( the plastic in the fender wells exc. ...).
    2. Had a new exhaust from the flex pipe back made for my ride. They installed a new flex pipe, cut out the stock converter ( now no converter...) and installed a used ( but still in good shape...) muffeler, oval shaped with a round four inch tip, and new pipe to connect it all. I think they used 2.25 inch pipe. The pipe was bent with a pipe bender, but not mandrel bent.
    3. I installed a Mallory in line adjustable fule pressure regulator, and a homeade on the fule rail guage to monitor fule psi. What I mean by "in line" is this regulator is installed after the stock regulator, in the fule return line. The stock regulator now runs wide open. I know this sounds bad, but an A.S.E. certified tech I work with ( same guy I bought the regulator from...) assures me this is okay, and not bad.
    Other than a set of Montegi sixteen inch MR7 rims with Kumho tires, the 5% window tint, custom cut up factory bumper cover with racing mesh installed, APC clear corner lenses, CRX clear bumper lenses and other assorted "looks" orianted mods, this is it, so far.
    Based on that knowladge, what would be the best plan for me to follow now? I'm thinking the next thing to do would be a set of headers. But then what? Any and all feedback would be most helpful.
    P.S.: The F22 has 191000 some odd miles on it, and far as I know has never had any internal work done to it, other than replacing the oil pan gasket, and of corse regular oil changes. (Every 3000 miles since I've owned it...)
    Nova: A star that suddenly increases it's light output tremendously and then fades away to its former obscurity in a few months or years.

    Supernova: One of the rarely observed nova outbursts in which the maximum intrinsic luminosity may reach 100 million times that of the sun.

    #2
    all the wrong things in all the wrong places
    best plan of attack...start over

    Owner of https://theclunkerjunker.com

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      #3
      Search around the member's ride area and check out different whips. Just take note of different discussions in the performance tech/swaps area and you should be set. Create a plan that is centered around a budget.

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        #4
        your biggest decision is going to be if you want N/A or Forced induction...afer that there is A LOT to research and know. but just a reminder...F22 N/A buildups are few and far between. if you want N/A just swap the motor and build on the H22

        Owner of https://theclunkerjunker.com

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          #5
          also, adding to the previous posts. i would not take out the inner fender plastic piping that provides air to the filter box or cone filter if you replace the intake. on a CB7, with the cone filter sitting behind the battery, it is hardd enough to get air to it. so, i would leave the piping in the fender so that you have constant air hitting it that would normally be going into the airbox if you decided to go with an aftermarket short ram intake.
          Last edited by sACCLUDEd; 12-02-2004, 01:27 PM.

          178 whp and 148 torque (mustang dyno)
          14.8 @ 93 in 1/4 mile-in Accord
          ??.? @ ?? in 1/4 mile-in Civic

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            #6
            sACCLUDEd: Thankx for the reply, but I'm confused! First you say to take out the inner fender plastic, then you say leave it...

            Accord R33: Why are my mods "all the wrong things in all the wrong places"? The lack of much of a budget is the whole reason I'm working with what I have already, a F22.

            Fushi: Once again you come through! Thankx for the tip. I tried looking through the members rides earlier, but it would take days to look at everything!

            Midnight: Where you at? What is your advise? Let me know, cuz!

            The idea is to stay N/A, at least for now. Anyone with any more opinions or advise, I would be greatful for your input and feedback! Thankx to all my Accord "family"! Peace.
            Nova: A star that suddenly increases it's light output tremendously and then fades away to its former obscurity in a few months or years.

            Supernova: One of the rarely observed nova outbursts in which the maximum intrinsic luminosity may reach 100 million times that of the sun.

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              #7
              Building an F22 is kinda rare. Everyone has the H22 or thinks you should get an H22... I can only imagine the look on people's faces when the find out they just had their ass handed too them by a SOHC 2.2 liter... Around here, the most common Honda car is the Civic, followed by the Accura Integra. Everyone is swapping for the DOHC 1.8 Integra engine in their civics, or building DOHC 1.6 engines. We do have a couple of Nissan 240 SX, and one or two Mitsubishi 3000 GT, a few Toyota Celica's, and some Altima's and Sentra's. Also one or maybe two Mazda RX8's as well as S2000's. I don't expect to run with the RX8's or S2000's or even the 3000 GT's, yet... But it would be nice to roll up beside some decked-out DOHC 1.8's, have them laugh at my little "family" car, then run off and leave them in a cloud of exhaust fumes!
              Nova: A star that suddenly increases it's light output tremendously and then fades away to its former obscurity in a few months or years.

              Supernova: One of the rarely observed nova outbursts in which the maximum intrinsic luminosity may reach 100 million times that of the sun.

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                #8
                I've got a built F22. Soon to be F22AX/F22B DOHC Hybrid

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                  #9
                  Fushi: At the risk of sounding totaly stupid, what exactly is a F22AX/F22B? Never heard of it... Sounds pretty cool!
                  Nova: A star that suddenly increases it's light output tremendously and then fades away to its former obscurity in a few months or years.

                  Supernova: One of the rarely observed nova outbursts in which the maximum intrinsic luminosity may reach 100 million times that of the sun.

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                    #10
                    Don't worry about sounding stupid...I currently have a built F22AX (SOHC), which I am getting ready to put a F22B (DOHC )head onto. Thereby giving me a F22AX/F22B Hybrid engine. I have a thread located in the swaps section with more info on the head swap.

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                      #11
                      Oh, okay! I thought it might be something like that... Around here, everyone with the block from one engine and the head from a differant engine calles it a "Frankenstine" engine.

                      By the way, SWEET ride!!!
                      Nova: A star that suddenly increases it's light output tremendously and then fades away to its former obscurity in a few months or years.

                      Supernova: One of the rarely observed nova outbursts in which the maximum intrinsic luminosity may reach 100 million times that of the sun.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by SuperNova92LX
                        But it would be nice to roll up beside some decked-out DOHC 1.8's, have them laugh at my little "family" car, then run off and leave them in a cloud of exhaust fumes!
                        not to be mister negative against the F-series...god knows i love it. but i dont know if a built N/A F22a would compair against something like a built B18c...

                        Owner of https://theclunkerjunker.com

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                          #13
                          How so? I always thought there was no replacement for displacement...
                          Nova: A star that suddenly increases it's light output tremendously and then fades away to its former obscurity in a few months or years.

                          Supernova: One of the rarely observed nova outbursts in which the maximum intrinsic luminosity may reach 100 million times that of the sun.

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                            #14
                            Sorry for not bein around much its been an action packed couple of days and i haven't spent more than a few minutes in front of the comp. First i'll start off with the fact that its been proven that with enough mods and know-how you can put damn near any of honda's motors into the 10's. In our case bisi moto proved it with his built f-series engine. SuperNova has the same ambition i had when first starting off and it was all fueled by ppl laughing at me so i'd say use any negativity (no offense eric...at all) and turn it into more gas to feed your fire. Your especially gonna get ragged on and told the auto tranny will never make power and u need a 5-speed swap and this that and the other. If its not what you want to do then use the comments as fuel. The drive will make u research and learn more. But IMO a good low budget N/A grocery list without doing internals would be:
                            f22a6 intake mani with slight DIY port and polish $75
                            h23 Upper intake plenum and throttle body with slight DIY port and polish $30-50
                            Heat resistant Intake manifold gasket from rebels $35
                            ebay intake $40 shipped ( use your current air filter)
                            EX header $50-75
                            MSD Blaster Coil $35
                            Delta Reground Camshaft $100
                            Adj. Cam Gear $50-100
                            DIY Throttle body bypass mod - Free
                            DIY Filled motor mounts $27
                            = $537

                            I would add transmission mods but i don't know alot about auto tranny upgrades besides the torque converter and i've never seen any posts about companies making performance tranny mods for auto accords...might even have to switch it out for the h22 auto tranny
                            Last on the list if u wanted to would be a 50-75 shot of nitrous $300-500...that should definately get u into the 14's

                            But in any case or setup you choose you have to find a way to raise the compression ratio of the engine. The 8.8:1 is killing any chance of you having somewhat fast all motor f22. I'd suggest shaving the head down and get the compression in the 10's. Use 93 octane (cost = 1 arm and one leg)
                            Knowledge is power...in EVERY sense of the word

                            FSAE (F Series Accord Enthusiasts) ..."A dying breed thats taking it to the next level" #12

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                              #15
                              i corrected my post. i meant to put would not but ya know how it goes.

                              sACCLUDEd: Thankx for the reply, but I'm confused! First you say to take out the inner fender plastic, then you say leave it...

                              i would leave the piping!!!!!!!

                              178 whp and 148 torque (mustang dyno)
                              14.8 @ 93 in 1/4 mile-in Accord
                              ??.? @ ?? in 1/4 mile-in Civic

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