okay so someone was telling me about a year ago i could just pop the belt off for performance increase, he did it to his motor i saw the increase, saw it didnt hurt anything. so why do people get the delete kit? i understand its the right way to do it and i plan on getting one to do it right also but until then will it hurt my h22 if i pop it off? i saw it didnt hurt his f22 in the SHORT TERM but i dont know if it will hurt my h22. long or short term. i would like the performance if it wont hurt but i will keep it on if its gonna hurt it at all.
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just to remove the balance shafts completely, im putting the belt back on because i hate the vibration on my street car. -
dont i need the delete kit to take them out completely? im just asking if its gonna hurt to just take the belt off until i get the delete kit?Comment
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Let me see if I have this right
The crank is balanced in such a way as to prevent "primary" vibrations. Primary vibrations basically mean that the crank, the rods and pistons, etc. (internal engine components) would vibrate around inside the engine and would wear out bearings and such, eventually meaning you'd have to rebuild or replace the motor.
The balance shafts are meant to prevent "secondary" vibrations, which means that the motor as a whole will vibrate in the car. In other words, the car can vibrate but the internals on the motor will not vibrate inside the motor. This may make the car slightly uncomfortable, but will not jeapordize the engine.
If you want to make sure that your H22 will be safe, chances are that removing the balance shafts won't hurt, it'll just make your car vibrate a little. If you combine it with solid mounts it could vibrate quite a bit. If you want to make sure you have no vibrations, what you can always do is have the crankshaft balanced and make sure all your main and rod bearings are good, or just replace them. That *should* stop your engine from vibrating without balance shafts.
Removing your balance shaft belt means that you can rather easily experiment with the feel of no balance shafts before investing your time and money into removing the shafts entirely. Then if you don't like the vibrations you can just put the belt back on and not waste your money on the kit. If you don't mind them you can buy the kit. The reason you'd remove them entirely is that it takes off about 8 lbs, will transfer the center of gravity of your car back a tiny bit (like a millimeter) but most importantly it somehow helps with oil pressure. Not sure how, just know that it does.Comment
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sweet thank you very much. i have heard about the oil pressure thing and wouldn't that help vtec crack harder if it had more oil pressure?Comment
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ponder this
if the balance shafts weren't needed why would Honda engineer them into the engine
the early (62-67) Chevy 4 cyl engines were notorious for vibration so Chevrolet ,instead of engineering balance shafts into the engines installed huge rubber motor mounts and let the engines shake like a dancer.
needless to say the balance shafts are there for a reasonComment
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Its a fine idea. Countless members have deleted their balance shafts or cut belts. Including myself.
And bobbycos, they aren't needed. Its like air conditioning or cruise controll. They are there so 80 year old ladys can't feel extra microvibrations idling at stop lights.
I was saying "no" to you asking if higher oil pressure would make vtec "crack" harder.Comment
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oh okay thank you. taking it off tonight. and i didn't have my hopes up on it cracking harder from that.Originally posted by noobcake View PostComment
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