Is my F22A1 worth pouring money into?

[DirtySouthHonda]

I have 145,981 miles on my F22A1. Will I be able to modify my engine or would it be a good idea to transplant a DOHC engine (non H22 & non JDM) into the engine bay?

The reason I asked because:

I have 145,981 miles on the engine.
I never get my oil changed at 3,000 miles (it's always 4,000).
I redline my engine while driving any chance I get.


~DirtySouthHonda

[F20A CB7]

I have 145,981 miles on my F22A1. Will I be able to modify my engine or would it be a good idea to transplant a DOHC engine (non H22 & non JDM) into the engine bay?

The reason I asked because:

I have 145,981 miles on the engine.
I never get my oil changed at 3,000 miles (it's always 4,000).
I redline my engine while driving any change I get.


~DirtySouthHonda

YOu red line the bitch everyday and how is she runnin good rite

you can do a swap if u would like of jus work with wat u have when she fails move on to something else.

U can get a cam shaft thru delta or bisi moto.
u can get a h23 intake mani.
h23 transmission

and spray. which is best bang for ur buck liek 400 or so, there are people on here with spray and they love it.

IT depends on wat u wanna do with ur car. BALL IS IN UR COURT

[Djmoua]

have u raced a civic and found that out urself?...reason i asked only against a civic...is well...what do u think?

[Losiracer2]

you won't necessarily have to POUR money into your A1. you could upgrade it to an A6 with various parts from the J.Y. probably for under $300. I'd say you could bump as much as +40 hp at the flywheel with the following

-A4 header/downpipe good for +5hp over A6 header
-p12 ECU from a Prelude S +10 hp simple plug and play under passenger carpet (might not work w/ A6/H23 intake manifold swap as well)
-A6 intake manifold w/ butterflies and Cam gear +15hp, cam gear really helps.
-OR you could get the H23 intake manifold (Throttle body, Plenum, IAB plate w/ butterflies, and Runners) +10hp over A6 intake manifold swap.

[zigg_1311]

if you gonna do a swap, for the money a h23 is an extremely good swap, but if you gonna put money into your a1, do the h23 intake manifold swap, bisimoto cam, header, get a chipped ecu, and you will have a a1 faster than a a6

[HondaFan81]

I have 145,981 miles on my F22A1. Will I be able to modify my engine or would it be a good idea to transplant a DOHC engine (non H22 & non JDM) into the engine bay?

The reason I asked because:

I have 145,981 miles on the engine.
I never get my oil changed at 3,000 miles (it's always 4,000).
I redline my engine while driving any chance I get.


~DirtySouthHonda

SO? I had 210,XXX miles on my red Accord when I modified it. It's all about what condition the motor is in. I changed my oil every 7,000 miles with Mobil1 5W30 synthetic. You're changing your oil fine, that don't mean you motor is a piece.

As long as you take care of your motor by changing motor oil, coolant, if it overheats shut it off an fix it, don't abuse it by running it extensively, do your valve lash adjustments ...it's a Honda, it's fine and made to rev.

Do a compression check if you're paranoid about your motor being bad or just drive it and if it seems healthy, modify it.

The more appropriate question is, if you have any money to modify it and do you know what you're doing?

[ikayto]

you won't necessarily have to POUR money into your A1. you could upgrade it to an A6 with various parts from the J.Y. probably for under $300. I'd say you could bump as much as +40 hp at the flywheel with the following

-A4 header/downpipe good for +5hp over A6 header
-p12 ECU from a Prelude S +10 hp simple plug and play under passenger carpet (might not work w/ A6/H23 intake manifold swap as well)
-A6 intake manifold w/ butterflies and Cam gear +15hp, cam gear really helps.
-OR you could get the H23 intake manifold (Throttle body, Plenum, IAB plate w/ butterflies, and Runners) +10hp over A6 intake manifold swap.

hp gains are so wrong, but what you can do is right, with an a6 cam gear.

[CB7Man]

Wrong?
F22A4 has 130 hp
5 more than F22A1, Both the engines have no difference than the header/downpipe

F22A6 has a 15 hp difference over the A1
I'd go with 5HP for IM and 10 for Cam

An F22A1/4/6/H23 IM can be made to run right with H23's

I see an engine with (Stock Specs) running roughly 140-155 hp

The thing you cant forget, the F22A6 is running a more restrictive downpipe, therefor it reduces airflow=the lower HP rating
An F22A6 with a A4 downpipe would most likely see 148-151 HP


As for putting money into it
Its still kickin at 140K thats nothing for a Honda!
People are slamming 220K Stock F22 engines with 20 lbs of boost!

Just if you plan to be rev happy, get a new timeing belt, thats #1

[JoshM]

I've got 232K on my F22. Still runs healthy. Not going to swap until it's had enough.

[F20A CB7]

I had 220,000 miles b4 i cracked the block, dont ask

[Camurai]

Horsepower gains are never what you think they're going to be. Every engine is different, and gains don't necessarily stack as you might hope. Also, some mods won't see their full value until you modify all the other systems to compensate. For instance, you could throw an A6 cam into an A1, but you're not going to get 10hp just from doing that. The stock A1 intake and exhaust systems are entirely too restrictive to take full advantage of the more aggressive cam profile, and the ECU will have to be tuned to bump up the fuel and ignition maps for everything to work together.And engine isn't just a collection of parts. It works together as an entire, balanced system. The key is to make the system as efficient as possible to maximize horsepower and torque output.

[10thcb7]

When I first started my intrest in cb7tuner.com I asked about an all out F series motor exchange little did I know that owequit was already in progress. I THiNK he as the combo described. BTW I too in theory believe that a F22A6 could have more power by replacing the IAB's and using the A4 header along with a P12 ECU. I in theory THiNK that the Gains would be 10-25crankHP. And then you could still bore out the H22 T/B and PLenum. ect

[10thcb7]

BTW its

F22A1 125HP accord BR!CK!
F22A1 135HP prelude ECU
F22A4 130HP LX? header tubular
F22A6 140HP EX header/camshaft/dual runner intake manifold

[dbsharp]

is your f22a1 worth dumping money into?
ABSOLUTELY. imo

[westsideaccord]

Wouldnt money in valvetrain and combustion chamber etc. ruin the engine?
Swap if you want higher revving n/a power, turbo the f low boost if you want a nice gain, nitrous can be fun in moderation also. OR build a f22 so it can take a shitkicken with rods pistons and such then slap a e316g or equivelent on and tear up the streets and strip!