Expected horsepower on stock sleeves

[Julio@Bisimoto]

Would a block guard help in this situation or are they wastes of money?

Lol I have had to hammer out pistons out of blocks that had block guards installed after they ran one for a while. They definitely do warp the cylinder walls and will cause major problems with ring seal as well damage to pistons.

I do agree with a good set of Forged pistons and steel rods the f22 can support a good amount of power with stock sleeves. I do recommend to stay around 300whp with a very good tune being that cylinder pressures do get pretty high and can crack a sleeve with a bit of detonation.

You can get away with more WHP like many have already said but of course it will come down to how well your car is tuned, how you drive and maintain your setup.

My opinion just sleeve up the block and turn up the boost

[jdm92_accorn]

i dont understand, i've had a block guard for about 4yrs now without any of those problems. and i abuse the hell out of mine sometimes, i mean like taking it to the track and snatching 2nd at 8k. never had any problem with piston failure ect.

[Julio@Bisimoto]

i dont understand, i've had a block guard for about 4yrs now without any of those problems. and i abuse the hell out of mine sometimes, i mean like taking it to the track and snatching 2nd at 8k. never had any problem with piston failure ect.

You are very lucky my friend I have torn many motors apart built by differnt people to see this very same problem. I hope you don't have that problem

[jdm92_accorn]

alot of it is from using cheap ebay ones. plus we bored mine with the brace in place.

[esskater892]

turbo set up

I am actually doing a build, well the research part right now. i have a spare f22a6 that I'm building. found out the sleeving is a grand and thats alot of mula. i dont plan on going over 300 hp. yet. but i take it the stock sleevs are iron? and if one were to choose to get the steel pistons and rods would that rreally reduce the risk of the damage possible while running stock sleevs?

[BIGsnorlax]

I am actually doing a build, well the research part right now. i have a spare f22a6 that I'm building. found out the sleeving is a grand and thats alot of mula. i dont plan on going over 300 hp. yet. but i take it the stock sleevs are iron? and if one were to choose to get the steel pistons and rods would that rreally reduce the risk of the damage possible while running stock sleevs?

Yes its a lot of money. But pistons and con rods etc and a bore/hone for your new oversize pistons 85.5 mm or larger will cost you around a grand anyways...

Just save up and sleeve it. Once you sleeve it, you'll pretty much have a block you can use over and over again if nothing horrible goes wrong that is

Using steel rods and pistons wont reduce anything... stock pistons are cast steel, as well as the rods. Forged rods and pistons are also steel, but much stronger and can handle more boost. Meaning an aftermarket rotating assembly will handle a lot more than the stock sleeves.

Just sleeve it bra

[cb7_with_snail]

Lokk guy. Point blank you can boost on stock sleaves.
#1. Don't go over 10lbs
#2. Don't expect a lambo killer
#3. Keep it between 170-230 hp.

When ur done and get usedto that power sleave it. Build it. Boost it. Ull have the up wards of 400 hp. Till then stck with the small snail

[Jonas]

stock pistons are aluminum

stock sleeves can hold plenty of power reliably if you dont abuse it. more than 300 and you will have a car that sucks to drive on the street anyway. unless the bragging rights are worth putting up with the wheelspin

[cb7_with_snail]

I don't think they will hold 300...and if so not for long...but ill tell ya I agree 300 on a street car would tip the iceburg of hard to control. But I wouldn't mind a 500 hp accord

[Jonas]

they would hold 300. the stock pistons would as well, but they would give in time. the stock sleeves should be fine at 300, provided everything else is in good condition and set up properly. sleeving is never a bad idea, but at a streetable level theres really no need.

id love 500. even 600. i know of a few 600hp cbs. or at least cars that are capable of it. the bragging rights are awesome for sure, but youd have a hell of a time putting that much power down to the ground with the front wheels. youd spend all your time controlling wheelspin rather than enjoying your car

[cb7_with_snail]

they would hold 300. the stock pistons would as well, but they would give in time. the stock sleeves should be fine at 300, provided everything else is in good condition and set up properly. sleeving is never a bad idea, but at a streetable level theres really no need.

id love 500. even 600. i know of a few 600hp cbs. or at least cars that are capable of it. the bragging rights are awesome for sure, but youd have a hell of a time putting that much power down to the ground with the front wheels. youd spend all your time controlling wheelspin rather than enjoying your car

True id rather have a 3ooHP dd than a 6ooHP cb id see only in the summer on drag weekends

[Jonas]

if i'm making 600hp, i want it to go to the rear wheels. or all wheels. that much power fwd would be annoying unless i wanted to set some sort of fwd record, which doesnt interest me at all.

[esskater892]

they would hold 300. the stock pistons would as well, but they would give in time. the stock sleeves should be fine at 300, provided everything else is in good condition and set up properly. sleeving is never a bad idea, but at a streetable level theres really no need.

word. thats kinda what ive gathered, however i dont think ill be going with stock pistons and rods tho. but maybe during the time of getting everything together ill get it sleeved. i mean i dont really want to go over 300, this is going to be a dd for a while and im just looking to make it funner, nicer and sleepy.

[Jonas]

you can run forged rods and pistons on stock sleeves. though a good strong aftermarket sleeve job could never hurt.

[esskater892]

whats the max bore one would run on a sleeved block?