some q's about 16g

[quickangel93]

i wanted to know a cupple awnsers to a cupple questions, before i start my project. it would be greatly appriciated!

do i need a boost controller?
what boost is the wastegate set at?
if i start off with 14g, can i keep the same injectors for 16g?
will i need to retune the ecu one i upgrade?

thanks alot guys for your help!

[bresk8r87]

i wanted to know a cupple awnsers to a cupple questions, before i start my project. it would be greatly appriciated!

do i need a boost controller?
what boost is the wastegate set at?
if i start off with 14g, can i keep the same injectors for 16g?
will i need to retune the ecu one i upgrade?

thanks alot guys for your help!

no
8 lbs
yes, 450's will be alright
somewhat, depends on how much boost you want to run

[quickangel93]

no
8 lbs
yes, 450's will be alright
somewhat, depends on how much boost you want to run

12psi. some mods done to block and head.

[NAiL05]

OT: JW if he swapped over to a bigger turbo wouldnt he need to remap the fuel curves since they spool and provide power at a different rpm? Dunno just wondering.

[Boost_Lee]

you need a boost controller if you want to run 12 lbs on a dsm wastegate

8lbs for a 14b wg, evo3 16gs run about 10 psi on their wastegates

450cc's should be ok for 12 psi, but if you are expecting numbers over 300whp, i would consider going bigger soon

retune is neccessary for every major change in your setup. The spool characteristics will be different, as well as the amount of cfms that flow on the 16g compared to the 14b, more air= more fuel

[quickangel93]

ok thanks 91accordexr33.

I found a controller on ebay for 100 bucks. its the digital one, not mechanical.

heres going to be my setup:

16g turbo
DSM Mani
H23 Intake Mani
Block Gaurd
Cam & Pulley (im looking for good ones still)
Valves, Valve Springs, Retainers
Summit Racing Pistons
Piston Rings
B.O.V (DSM)
Accel Injectors (probably 500cc)
MSD ignition, wires, Bosch Platium 4
Fuel Pressure Regulator

Im thinking to spend around 1,500 - 1,800.

[Boost_Lee]

good stuff,if ur gonan boost 12 psi and not change it, i reccomend a Hallman manual bosot controller. Their around 70-80 bux and work great from what i hear

[quickangel93]

but how do you know what psi your on?

[d112crzy]

good stuff,if ur gonan boost 12 psi and not change it, i reccomend a Hallman manual bosot controller. Their around 70-80 bux and work great from what i hear

you can make a mbc for 20 bucks by going to home depot.

i dont know if id trust a $100 ebc.

anyways, get rid of the block guard. it is completely unnecessary, especially since you're going with not much over 300whp, if that.

also, you know how much psi you're running with a boost gauge.

cmon dude, do your own research instead of asking people. homemadeturbo.com is your friend.

just dont ask retarded questions. if you thikn you might get flamed, you will get flamed. if you dont think you will get flamed, you will still get flamed.

[quickangel93]

you can make a mbc for 20 bucks by going to home depot.

i dont know if id trust a $100 ebc.

anyways, get rid of the block guard. it is completely unnecessary, especially since you're going with not much over 300whp, if that.

also, you know how much psi you're running with a boost gauge.

cmon dude, do your own research instead of asking people. homemadeturbo.com is your friend.

just dont ask retarded questions. if you thikn you might get flamed, you will get flamed. if you dont think you will get flamed, you will still get flamed.

d112 i dont care if i get flammed. when im turboed, anyone whos flamming me has enough balls to run against me.

i know how much boost ill run by the boost gauge. now how much boost is the controller will be set at?

i know a backround how to setup stuff, and i dont want cylinder walk thats why i want the gaurd.

the only thing im not good at is tuning everything to work properly!

[Ilikebigbutts]

a block guard is completely unnecassary.actually, if i was you i wouldnt open that motor up since its your dd.boost the engine as it sits and get a spare one do build up.


ILBB

[h22sparkle]

a block guard is completely unnecassary.actually, if i was you i wouldnt open that motor up since its your dd.boost the engine as it sits and get a spare one do build up.


ILBB

not only that the block guard creates cooling issues.

[h22sparkle]

not to worry quickangel93 about the flaming. Its the same haters who hate who dont even have shit or the setup so dont even sweat it let em talk out the ass.

[deevergote]

Block guards cause warpage in the cylinder walls. Get a full resleeve, or chance it on stock sleeves. Stock internals can handle 12psi for quite a while if you tune properly. Spend your block guard money on a proper tuning setup, and memorize www.pgmfi.org

The 14b is actually pretty small for the F22. It's made for a smaller engine. It will produce some heat issues. You'd be better off starting with the 16g.

Also a "digital" boost controller does the same thing as a manual controller... just remotely, with a pretty screen. You'd be better off investing in a quality manual to start, and getting a GOOD electronic one later on.

The boost gauge will tell you what you're boosting to, but it'll be too late if your wastegate fails and you overboost. You'll watch that needle shoot to 35psi and you'll hear some funny sounds. Don't rely on the gauge, get quality parts so you don't have to worry about it.

[Accord R33]

d112 i dont care if i get flammed. when im turboed, anyone whos flamming me has enough balls to run against me.

A bold statement from someone who mentioned a block guard and electronic boost controller before any kind of engine management.

have you ever even heard of any F22 having cylinder walk? or any kind of structural issues with the block casting/sleeves?