i was on the darton website looking at prices of sleeves for the h22...i saw that they had two options for sleeves the M.I.D. sleeve and the open sleeve...there is quite a bit of price difference between the two... the M.I.D. being $250 and the open being $650...i was just wondering what the differnce was between M.I.D. sleeves and open sleeves? i searched but couldnt really find anything...
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I'd like to know where you found those prices, and if they were for all sleeves or individual ones. The reason I'd like to know where is because I think that pricing is rather skewed...generally Darton MID sleeves run about $200-$250 each and the standard (slightly heavier duty) stock style sleeves are about $65-$80each.
As for which ones are better, I'd say if you're going to spend the money, just get the best, Darton MID sleeves, they'll handle all the power you could ever imagine. But that's just me...but, if you're ambition isn't that high, or your wallet not that deep, just sleeve it with Iron stock replacement style sleeves (i.e. the cheaper ones) They're good for moderate boost/hp.
-Kyle
Edit- I noticed that you said you were on the Darton website, I shall investigate. This seems odd to me.SOHC Non-VTEC F-series for life
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On Raceeng.com Darton sleeve prices are listed as:
MID sleeve kit- $600 (Set)
Flanged sleeves- $58 (each)
Stock replacement sleeves- $41 (each)
Just FYI, that's what I found.
-KyleSOHC Non-VTEC F-series for life
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Mid sleeves is for better cooling of the engine or heat distribution among all pistons.Comment
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i got the prices mixed around...you were right about the pricing...can just any machine shop sleeve an h22a due to the frm sleeves? i read in a magazine that the machine shop had to have a special type of bore to do it? also what is the difference between flanged and stock? just wondering...i dont know that much about sleeves...Comment
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be sure to get a reputable machine shop to install them
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Any good machine shop should be able to install new sleeves, no replacement sleeves that I know of are FRM. And it is because of the specialized process needed to machine FRM sleeves, that all aftermarket sleeves are made from iron.Originally posted by accord93racer
As for the difference between "Flanged" & "Stock".
The stock would be used with the OEM style open-deck block and be made of iron.
The flanged sleeves are similar to having a built in blockguard, the flanges are snugged against the block for better strength. Similar to the MID sleeves, but still open deck.
and MAKE SURE you hire a COMPETENT machine shop.
-KyleSOHC Non-VTEC F-series for life
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Wouldn't is also matter if the h22 is an h22 or an h22a4. I know the h22 are a solid block and the a4 is a more open design.Comment
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I have darton mid sleeves in my f22a. They cost me $1300 installed. They are currently bored to 85.5mm and holding up well. I've only ran 20psi a few times on it, but plan to run a lot more... I like them...12.5 at 114.6mph 15psi
11.7 and 11.5 20.5psi
F22a1
60-1 td06h turbo
Darton mid sleeves
85.5 wiseco 8.8:1 forged pistons
Crower pro billet rods
Custom ported head.
KMS valves
F23 headgasket
ARP H23 headstuds
H23 upper intake manifold
F22a6 lower intake manifold
Intake manifold is gutted
AEM EMS 1040u
FIC 850cc injectors
Walbro 255 pump
H23 manual trans
Prelude shifter assembly
Forbidden short throw
Nitrous Express Kit installed, never used on this motorComment
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