Does the H22 Intake Mani fit on the F22? Why not Supercharge it?

[Legacy Accord]

or just thinking too much

H22 intake manifold fits on our CB7 why not just hook up the jacksonracing supercharger for the h22 to out f22? might have some clearance issues but nothing a hood scoop cant cover

[gloryaccordy]

Re: Am I crazy ?

Originally posted by Legacy Accord
or just thinking too much

H22 intake manifold fits on our CB7 why not just hook up the jacksonracing supercharger for the h22 to out f22? might have some clearance issues but nothing a hood scoop cant cover

H22 IM doesn't fit, according to what I keep hearing. It's so much better (and probably cheaper) to go turbo. Seriously...you can get a stock DSM manifold/turbo, a decent side-mount intercooler, a custom downpipe, and a used turbo timer+AFC for what it would cost to get the s/c. Plus the possibilities for a turbo are endless, as you could always upgrade, whereas you'd be stuck w/whatever the s/c gave you to start. I've been thinking about slowly piecing together a ghetto kit, here are my estimations:

2g manifold: $150
random dsm turbo (t25 maybe?): $500
li'l intercooler: $200
piping: $150 maybe...you could go cheap w/ plumbing elbows, but that won't be good for making power
custom downpipe: $100 prob.
safc: $200
other electronics: $300
oil stuff: ???
total: $1600+
Granted tuning it would be a beyotch, but even w/a full day at the dyno that's still waaay cheaper than whatever you'd have to pay to get a new blower and fab up a way to connect it.

[Legacy Accord]

i was just thinking out there

[MRX]

The supercharger won't clear the firewall on a h22 cb7 and no the h22 intake manifold doesn't fit the f22

[Legacy Accord]

thought so, so I am crazy

[MRX]

Originally posted by Legacy Accord
thought so, so I am crazy

yes you are, please seek help

[quadnie]

Re: Re: Am I crazy ?

Originally posted by gloryaccordy
H22 IM doesn't fit, according to what I keep hearing. It's so much better (and probably cheaper) to go turbo. Seriously...you can get a stock DSM manifold/turbo, a decent side-mount intercooler, a custom downpipe, and a used turbo timer+AFC for what it would cost to get the s/c. Plus the possibilities for a turbo are endless, as you could always upgrade, whereas you'd be stuck w/whatever the s/c gave you to start. I've been thinking about slowly piecing together a ghetto kit, here are my estimations:

2g manifold: $150
random dsm turbo (t25 maybe?): $500
li'l intercooler: $200
piping: $150 maybe...you could go cheap w/ plumbing elbows, but that won't be good for making power
custom downpipe: $100 prob.
safc: $200
other electronics: $300
oil stuff: ???
total: $1600+
Granted tuning it would be a beyotch, but even w/a full day at the dyno that's still waaay cheaper than whatever you'd have to pay to get a new blower and fab up a way to connect it.

not to step on your toes here but I think your pricing is way off.
used dsm manifold: ~50
dsm turbo: ~100
piping: ~75
dp: use stock
oil lines: ~20
injectors: ~60
bov: ~40
ecu/misc: ~150
intercooler: 50+

total: around 500

this of course is assuming that you can fabricate stuff yourself and don't have the need to take it someplace.. prices could really vary but it's possible to sift it all out and get some rock bottom crack head pricing. All parts being in good usable condition.. even cheaper to do it to a civic.

[gloryaccordy]

Ah ok even better...I was just going off of prices from new stuff off Ebay, which still isn't bad, and shows how much those companies rape you with their kits. As far as stuff like intercoolers, electronics, and maybe to an extent the manifold I'd say it's def. fine to get used...but when it comes to DSMs and turbos somehow unless it's from like a 98 GS-T auto Spyder I wouldn't feel good about getting a used one, unless it was in crazy tip-top shape. Then again if you're familiar w/turbos it's easy to see whether one's on its last limbs or not...

[quadnie]

don't worry man, I quoted some real world prices for good usable items.. only stuff that I've scoped and was interested in

[GrayCar]

I had a crazy idea...

Drop in a belt driven supercharger, either a centrifugal or G-lader supercharger.

Remove the A/C compressor, run your piping right around the motor and into the intake.

No exhaust manifold, no goofiness...

Price is almost the same...

[quadnie]

not even close in price.. the cheapest I've seen used supercharger setups are like $700 for a honda D16. Not even close in power either.. I've already explained the differences in superchargers within these forums, lookup my post and see what I said. Turbochargers will always be cheaper and more efficient. If you are running forced induction period you will need exhaust upgrades, at least a manifold that will flow better.


::Pointing to your signature::

Oh yeah, PVC is polymer of vinyl chloride used in much more then just pipe, PCV stands for Positive Crankcase Ventilation and is not just a valve - it's a system for venting pressure from the engine. Here is some FYI in my forum:



http://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/i...threadid=25485

[GrayCar]

Originally posted by quadnie
not even close in price.. the cheapest I've seen used supercharger setups are like $700 for a honda D16. Not even close in power either.. I've already explained the differences in superchargers within these forums, lookup my post and see what I said. Turbochargers will always be cheaper and more efficient. If you are running forced induction period you will need exhaust upgrades, at least a manifold that will flow better.


::Pointing to your signature::

Oh yeah, PVC is polymer of vinyl chloride used in much more then just pipe, PCV stands for Positive Crankcase Ventilation and is not just a valve - it's a system for venting pressure from the engine. Here is some FYI in my forum:



http://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/i...threadid=25485

Wow, I feel like an idiot, really. Thanks for pointing that out. So stoopid...

[quadnie]

I just realized I probably looked like a cocky asshole making that statement.. but at least you have a nice signature now (not that anyone will probably even notice the change).

I think I shall make that my signature as well. Hope I stopped someone from going out and buying a supercharger (unless they really really had to).

[quadnie]

I just realized I probably looked like a cocky asshole making that statement.. but at least you have a nice signature now (not that anyone will probably even notice the change).

I think I shall make that my signature as well. Hope I stopped someone from going out and buying a supercharger (unless they really really had to).

[GrayCar]

Since the whole idea of this thread was conjecture anyway...

It seems to me that a small supercharger (not Roots) would be a relatively easy to do in comparison to a turbo.

No, I'm not saying either is better, lasts longer, whatever...

The A/C mount is right there, the ducting would be easier, no exhaust work and for an F22 which (from what I've read) doesn't cotton too well to heavy boost either... seems like a neat little thing to try.

You can score a G-lader blower off a Corado for little dollars off eBay.