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    engine operation problems with aftermarket camshaft

    Ok so I really need my car running by next week. The following mods have been done within the last month.


    F22A1
    NGK Plugs and wires
    Delta 272 Cam
    Bisimito Valvespring
    Bisimoto Retainers
    Cometic 85mm Headgasket
    ARP Head Bolts
    Skunk 2 Cam Gear
    F22A6 IM
    Gutted/jb welded IAB plate
    Megan Exhaust
    AEM Filter Oil Type
    Looped TB coolant lines
    Glowshift sandwich adapter
    Magnetic oil drain plug
    Bisimoto Intake Manifold Heat shielding gasket
    F22A4 Header
    Running a PT6 (have a P06 but dont have money to geet it chipped and tuned right now.)

    I also have an AEM fuel rail that is not on the car, I have a liquid filled fuel gauge that is going on tomorrow most likely. And I have a B&M adjustable FPR that I might throw on because as of now it sounds like im starving for fuel.

    At idle the car is at about 600rpm. Sounds clean, but when I accelerate a little i get a backfire out the exhaust and it feels like its misfiring on the pedal. I throw it into drive and the car goes nowhere. The idle drops and I stall out. I turn it on again and the car idles fine for a bit then again goes to about 500-600 rpm.

    The last time I turned it on it was taking it a couple of seconds to go from 500 rpm to about 2k rpm. it would accelerate slow, But after it passed that initial phase it sounded great at 5k rpm. then i throw it in drive again and cant go anywhere because the idle drops to about 200rpm and it takes it like 2 minutes to go higher than that at WOT.


    I had a code for the TPS but thats cause one of my hoses was connected wrong. I fixed that and reset the ECU. The code went away and it did the same thing. I am going to be going 5sp soon but I need to see if this thing is going to run it automatic seeing as I am broke as fuck right now and am running out of options.

    Any help is appreciated. If you need any more info let me know. Im gona post a video as soon as I can.
    Last edited by cb7rush; 04-24-2012, 02:45 PM.

    Rush

    Originally posted by Darkcloud
    Bought 3 things, 1 that goes boom,1 that shades and 1 to go fasrer
    Originally posted by bmxicansd
    so you got a boombox, sunglasses and rosettta stone?
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    #2
    I'd put money on it that the timing is off.

    02 Crv
    02 silverado Ex cab Z71, 2011 TRD 17" wheels, 245/80/17, ls1 cam, AFE intake, 3" catback, tuned by Larry at LSXperformance&pcm tuning driven daily.
    92 Acura Legend colbalt blue LS Coupe, custom intake, custom vibrant 2.5 cat back, led cluster and high beams, 2016 Coyote GT 18x8 wheels 235/40/18.
    Coming Soon Tein TSX coilovers.

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      #3
      Originally posted by SOHC-FTW View Post
      I'd put money on it that the timing is off.
      I agree with this.

      Also you can see if your car is running too rich or too lean by pulling the spark plugs. if they are very light colored it is too lean, if they are black it is too rich... generally.

      Also your title for this thread has nothing to do with with what you are asking. I stumbled into it thinking I could help you with a cam install.
      "There is nothing wrong with you that an expensive operation cannot prolong."

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        #4
        Originally posted by SOHC-FTW View Post
        I'd put money on it that the timing is off.
        Do you have to degree a regrind cam? I know you do with others.
        Originally posted by Mishakol129
        Do not disrespect my intelligence. I am the smartest person I know : )

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          #5
          I am going to double check my timing again and I realized my title sounded wierd after I created it :/

          I had standard copper plugs and they came out black the first time I started the car, but that was cause I was off on my wires. I swapped to Iridium plugs and the car is running lean cause they were whiter in color than normal

          Rush

          Originally posted by Darkcloud
          Bought 3 things, 1 that goes boom,1 that shades and 1 to go fasrer
          Originally posted by bmxicansd
          so you got a boombox, sunglasses and rosettta stone?

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            #6
            Originally posted by dj_ender View Post
            Do you have to degree a regrind cam? I know you do with others.
            its a delta, not sure if i had to do any degree adjustments. Il double check in a minute

            Rush

            Originally posted by Darkcloud
            Bought 3 things, 1 that goes boom,1 that shades and 1 to go fasrer
            Originally posted by bmxicansd
            so you got a boombox, sunglasses and rosettta stone?

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              #7
              Originally posted by dj_ender View Post
              Do you have to degree a regrind cam? I know you do with others.
              I never have although it's probably not a bad idea to it couldn't hurt. Both of my 272s (A6/B1) Were a pain to work with the LSA is like 108 they really need a tune, but i know you can manage to get a decent idle and running car it just takes some fine adjustments.

              Also i used oem valve lash specs/slighty tighter i didn't use delta's. I got this info from Hondafan81.
              .009in .011ex

              02 Crv
              02 silverado Ex cab Z71, 2011 TRD 17" wheels, 245/80/17, ls1 cam, AFE intake, 3" catback, tuned by Larry at LSXperformance&pcm tuning driven daily.
              92 Acura Legend colbalt blue LS Coupe, custom intake, custom vibrant 2.5 cat back, led cluster and high beams, 2016 Coyote GT 18x8 wheels 235/40/18.
              Coming Soon Tein TSX coilovers.

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                #8
                il try that next. .009 and .011 I tried stock, I tried tighter and it doesnt hurt to try that one next. I didnt see that I need to degree the cam upon install, but I did get a lot of threads on different forums saying that i will most likely need a tune. i am off timing, i am pretty sure since I forgot that I had to advance my timing on the dizzy side. when I was at tdc it would idle at 200rpm and i advanced the dizzy and it evened out a little. I will adjust it later. if this doesnt work I will switch to my a1 cam until I can get it to a tuner.

                Rush

                Originally posted by Darkcloud
                Bought 3 things, 1 that goes boom,1 that shades and 1 to go fasrer
                Originally posted by bmxicansd
                so you got a boombox, sunglasses and rosettta stone?

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                  #9
                  Just make sure #1 is at TDC you can use the old dipstick trick to find if it is or isn't the rest is in the cam/igntion timing where most mess up. Sounds like you are off a few teeth a timing light would be idea, at BTDC you will lose lowend up to about 2500'ish with the timing dead on.

                  02 Crv
                  02 silverado Ex cab Z71, 2011 TRD 17" wheels, 245/80/17, ls1 cam, AFE intake, 3" catback, tuned by Larry at LSXperformance&pcm tuning driven daily.
                  92 Acura Legend colbalt blue LS Coupe, custom intake, custom vibrant 2.5 cat back, led cluster and high beams, 2016 Coyote GT 18x8 wheels 235/40/18.
                  Coming Soon Tein TSX coilovers.

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                    #10
                    I feel like I am off a tooth or 2. I am going to remove the belt and start over. i was at tdc on the block but I think the head was off a tooth or 2. I will double check it though. I will set it to tdc and then I am going to try advancing and retarding it by a degree or two. il see what effect i get. I know I need more gas though cause I am running really lean.

                    Rush

                    Originally posted by Darkcloud
                    Bought 3 things, 1 that goes boom,1 that shades and 1 to go fasrer
                    Originally posted by bmxicansd
                    so you got a boombox, sunglasses and rosettta stone?

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                      #11
                      Your timing is retarded to much hints no lowend whatsoever. Once at BTDC i had to advance mine 3-5 degrees to keep some lowend 2000rpm's on it should pick back up compared to loss of alot more lowend when its at BTDC. You will need a tune, but getting it to be DD friendly is do able.

                      02 Crv
                      02 silverado Ex cab Z71, 2011 TRD 17" wheels, 245/80/17, ls1 cam, AFE intake, 3" catback, tuned by Larry at LSXperformance&pcm tuning driven daily.
                      92 Acura Legend colbalt blue LS Coupe, custom intake, custom vibrant 2.5 cat back, led cluster and high beams, 2016 Coyote GT 18x8 wheels 235/40/18.
                      Coming Soon Tein TSX coilovers.

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                        #12
                        i just need it DD able for a couple of weeks until I can get a good tune and chip the ecu.

                        Rush

                        Originally posted by Darkcloud
                        Bought 3 things, 1 that goes boom,1 that shades and 1 to go fasrer
                        Originally posted by bmxicansd
                        so you got a boombox, sunglasses and rosettta stone?

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                          #13
                          Just to be safe check for vaccum leaks aswell anything thats simple and relatively cheap or free to fix look into it.

                          02 Crv
                          02 silverado Ex cab Z71, 2011 TRD 17" wheels, 245/80/17, ls1 cam, AFE intake, 3" catback, tuned by Larry at LSXperformance&pcm tuning driven daily.
                          92 Acura Legend colbalt blue LS Coupe, custom intake, custom vibrant 2.5 cat back, led cluster and high beams, 2016 Coyote GT 18x8 wheels 235/40/18.
                          Coming Soon Tein TSX coilovers.

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                            #14
                            Im double checking that today i bought 6 ft of vaccuum hose

                            Rush

                            Originally posted by Darkcloud
                            Bought 3 things, 1 that goes boom,1 that shades and 1 to go fasrer
                            Originally posted by bmxicansd
                            so you got a boombox, sunglasses and rosettta stone?

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                              #15
                              I was off a tooth on the head..adjusted it and turned over good..didnt get a chance to test drive but will tomorrow..


                              Another thing i was watching was that fuel pressure was dropping as i got into 4k rpm..any reason why that happens?

                              Rush

                              Originally posted by Darkcloud
                              Bought 3 things, 1 that goes boom,1 that shades and 1 to go fasrer
                              Originally posted by bmxicansd
                              so you got a boombox, sunglasses and rosettta stone?

                              Comment

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