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For the most part you all have caught on without this post, but there have been a few habitual offenders that forced me to say this.
Everyone will get a couple of warnings from here on out, after that I just start deleting threads.
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Anybody Got A Aem Fuel Rail
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lol i love ya tonk.... i got an aem fuel fail and aem fpr and that 300 bucks was worth it....every god damn person say "o u can spend that on something better" lol like what a P&P or a regrind or lmao rofl turbo lol. regrind and p&p will give u little hp. for me bolt's-on's first then....more extreme more agressive work.....but yes tonk i agree.....don't ever ever ever tell anyone how to build there car....facts such as the stated fuel rail that had a bigger bore is good info. but any other bs on build it this way or idiot for spending 300 on that is freakin retarded.
what i don't think people realize is that alot of stuff like aem fuel rail and fpr are used later on as well for more extreme mods. take that into consideration ok?????
damn this forum is making me sad....more and more people bashing and forcing others to do things thier way or "your dumb" tis tis tis
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Its not bashing if its guidance. Your dumping a bit more fuel in upon throttle tip in is why you feel a difference in throttle response. Probably something close to a 12.3:1 a/f ratio. By increasing the volume of the fuel rail you've effectively increased the potential amount of fuel that flows through the injectors...but if the injectors are still opening at the same duration there isn't any more fuel going into the cylinders (unless the fuel pressure was raised) but neither would it create more power. Air + fuel creates power. F22's run about a 12.5:1 a/f ratio stock all throughout the powerband. lowering that a/f ratio as you have would actually cause a loss of power because theres no substantial increase of air going into the engine to compensate the fuel. The FPR on the other hand can add about 1-3hp because of the increase of atomized fuel...but a substantial air increase must still be compensated with it. And i'm not just talking an intake.
Honestly, when the guys in this thread said it was a waste of money if you were going for HP they were correct. And i can back it up with technical talk. I have the ability to prove to you scientifically as to why it was an aesthetic purchase and not a power purchase.
If you believe otherwise then dyno it and have your proof on paper. Essentially you could have had the same throttle response with a $20 throttle rotor. But in the end, we're glad your happy with your purchaseLast edited by MRX; 09-27-2005, 12:52 PM.Knowledge is power...in EVERY sense of the word
FSAE (F Series Accord Enthusiasts) ..."A dying breed thats taking it to the next level" #12
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Originally posted by midnite racer xIts not bashing if its guidance. Your dumping a bit more fuel in upon throttle tip in is why you feel a difference in throttle response. Probably something close to a 12.3:1 a/f ratio. By increasing the volume of the fuel rail you've effectively increased the potential amount of fuel that flows through the injectors...but if the injectors are still opening at the same duration there isn't any more fuel going into the cylinders (unless the fuel pressure was raised) but neither would it create more power. Air + fuel creates power. F22's run about a 12.5:1 a/f ratio stock all throughout the powerband. lowering that a/f ratio as you have would actually cause a loss of power because theres no substantial increase of air going into the engine to compensate the fuel. The FPR on the other hand can add about 1-3hp because of the increase of atomized fuel...but a substantial air increase must still be compensated with it. And i'm not just talking an intake.
Honestly, when the guys in this thread said it was a waste of money if you were going for HP they were correct. And i can back it up with technical talk. I have the ability to prove to you scientifically as to why it was an aesthetic purchase and not a power purchase.
If you believe otherwise then dyno it and have your proof on paper. Essentially you could have had the same throttle response with a $20 throttle rotor. But in the end, we're glad your happy with your purchase
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Originally posted by midnite racer xred, blue, or silver?
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