when will my rear end kick out?

[SOHC-FTW]

You need to start reading rules and regulations before moding. A nice simple N/A setup like jdm_accorns would go along ways in both fun and track.

[deevergote]

I remember reading the rules for the first autox I ever attended (I didn't end up running.) Something as simple as a carbon fiber hood could cost you.

[RyanD]

You're missing my point. Hopefully you'll get it before you drop too much money into the car.

I think im getting your point.

try the auto x first to really see where i should go.learn the car which IMO i already know pretty well. my beef is that while i am doing a manual swap at the end of this year the f which has 347k on it would not be able to take the abuse very long. i am getting some potenza's soon and i plan to put in a progress rear sway aswell.

what im thinking of doing is to build my f as planned but turn it down to about 200WHP and get the feel for that. then when im ready turn it up to 300whp

one way or another i am going to need an engine rebuild so why not drop a shit ton of money into it but turn it down from its full potential for a little while?

i really hope that is getting your point.

[RyanD]

You need to start reading rules and regulations before moding. A nice simple N/A setup like jdm_accorns would go along ways in both fun and track.

i LOVE accorns car. but i thought N/A was quite expensive.

what do you all reccomend i should start with in getting the most info i can about the pros/cons of NA and turbo?

[deevergote]

Do the 5 speed swap, but get used to the car in slow form. Don't expect to build it up and then turn it down. This isn't a video game. Even a fully built turbo car "tuned down" to 200whp will still be a handful.
Knowing your car on the street and knowing your car at the limits on a track are two very different things.

Also, as SOHC-FTW said, be sure you read up on the rules for whatever you want to do. You may find that you've modified the car to a point where any track will require a full roll cage before they'll let you on.


Don't be so anxious to race with a fast car. You'll get more out of your car as it is now, once you've done some suspension upgrades and that transmission swap.

[RyanD]

Do the 5 speed swap, but get used to the car in slow form. Don't expect to build it up and then turn it down. This isn't a video game. Even a fully built turbo car "tuned down" to 200whp will still be a handful.
Knowing your car on the street and knowing your car at the limits on a track are two very different things.

Also, as SOHC-FTW said, be sure you read up on the rules for whatever you want to do. You may find that you've modified the car to a point where any track will require a full roll cage before they'll let you on.


Don't be so anxious to race with a fast car. You'll get more out of your car as it is now, once you've done some suspension upgrades and that transmission swap.

ok. i will deffently take all that to heart. the red for sure because your right. i think im going to focus on an all motor build instead of turbo because to me the benefits are a lot better

i guess im trying to take on to much. i just want it to all be cost effective and i don't want to do it twice

[deevergote]

I wouldn't even say that. All motor has its benefits, and it has its drawbacks.

If you want to race, do it without anything significant done to the engine.

[SOHC-FTW]

Hes running stock block and head pretty darn simple an cheap. He made somelike 164whp with a old lvl2, generic header, gutted h23 IM an bolt on's.

I would much rather have a N/A setup for curves, but this is all speculation until ya read the rule books. I always wanted to rally, even the most modest and novice builds cost a small fortune. Like my $2000 car costing 10k plus to build with a mostly factory drivetrain still.