Wagon Caliper = Prelude VTEC?

[Cam]

Quick question. Is the front 4th gen prelude VTEC caliper the same as the cb wagon?

I have searched and found a couple of references to this being true. The main reason I'm sceptical is that Bendix has different part numbers for these pads. But they do have the same part number between the 97 - 02 prelude vtir and wagon. I was under the impression all 5th gen lude calipers were the same as 4th gen prelude vtec ones though.

Either way I'd need the prelude vtec caliper brackets to match up with ROH with prelude vtec rotors yeah?

thanks

[blizzard335]

What is the code?

AFAIK, the earlier BB1 (4ws) VTEC calipers were Akebono 2224 calipers. The later models received the larger Nissin calipers.

The BB6 had Nissin 17CL15VN calipers, while the lesser model BB7s had the smaller Nissin 17CL14VN caliper, or the equivalent Akebono caliper (not too sure whether it's 2224 or 2227)

The CB9 calipers I had from my previous halfcut were off the smaller 2227 Akebono caliper, since the CD6 caliper and rotors I used since my H swap were the 17CL15Vn Nissin caliper, and they filled up my 15 inch wheels more than the Akebono 2227 calipers.

[jhnyct]

I just checked the part numbers. A 93 wagon is the same as a 94 Prelude Si Vtec. Both are SM5 numbers.

[blizzard335]

I just checked the part numbers. A 93 wagon is the same as a 94 Prelude Si Vtec. Both are SM5 numbers.

SM5 = wagon

Does the 94 Si VTEC come with the larger caliper like the what the CD6 has?

does anybody have the code for the caliper?

[jhnyct]

Forgive me, what is a CD6? I was assuming it was a 5th gen wagon, but that is a CE1. It uses an SM5 as well. The S and Si Preludes use an SSO front caliper.

[blizzard335]

Forgive me, what is a CD6? I was assuming it was a 5th gen wagon, but that is a CE1. It uses an SM5 as well. The S and Si Preludes use an SSO front caliper.

CD6 = 5th gen sedan SiR

The CD6 uses the 17CL15Vn caliper, similar to the BB6 SiR caliper.

Which is also used by the RA1/2/3/4/5 Odyssey, the CF4 SiR, the CD8 coupe SiR and CF2 wagon SiR. There are a few more cars using the '15' Nissin caliper, but they slip my mind. It's 1am here

[Tnwagn]

CD6 = 5th gen sedan SiR

The CD6 uses the 17CL15Vn caliper, similar to the BB6 SiR caliper.

Which is also used by the RA1/2/3/4/5 Odyssey, the CF4 SiR, the CD8 coupe SiR and CF2 wagon SiR. There are a few more cars using the '15' Nissin caliper, but they slip my mind. It's 1am here

Damn you living in the future

91 Wagon here with 17CL15VN calipers

Based on what I've found so far, there were two different calipers offered on the 94 Si VTEC Ludes. The 17CL15VN looks like it was one of the ones offered. Not sure what the other one would be though. Possibly the Akebono model.

http://www.hondapartsdeals.com/hpa_p...onGroupID=7847

[jhnyct]

Damn you living in the future

Malaysia if I remember correctly.

[Tnwagn]

Time to thread jack the shit out of this thread. Well, sort of but not really.




So I think that it's fair enough to say that the 94 Prelude SI VTEC has 17CL15VN calipers and 25T brackets based on the image and part numbers in the link I posted.

Sooooo....... I think this means that wagons have a super duper easy way to go ROH

1. Retain the stock wagon calipers, brackets, and pads
2. 94 Prelude Si VTEC Rotors
3. OEM Acura 98-99 2.3 CL front hubs

If someone could clarify this I would greatly appreciate it.

EDIT: Checked it myself and found out that 4th Gen Preludes used only 23mm rotors. Thus, in order to use their setup, you would need to have 23T brackets.

[Night Wolf]

yeah the 97-01 prelude & the vtec prelude hve the same big caliper as the wagons. its one of the benifits of owning one

[Tnwagn]

Great thread for info

http://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2248376

[NAiL05]

Theres a thread somewhere on here about both calipers. This caliper was interchanged in a few vehicles.

[oneoffaccord]

are wagon rotors 11.1". if so then it will work.

[Cam]

wow this thing exploded overnight. Thanks for the responses. Blizzard you know way too much about hondas. :P

So I'm fairly confident that they are the same. I've found 2 pad companies that list the parts as the same (Hawk, Bosch). I think Bendix (an australian brand) has it wrong. None of the model names they use make much sense. Here are their profiles:

92 Accord Aerodeck:
http://www.bendix.com.au/user_upload...nner_Outer.pdf

94 - 02 Prelude vtir coupe:
http://www.bendix.com.au/user_upload...nner_Outer.pdf

97 - 02 si vtir atts 2.2 DOHC:
http://www.bendix.com.au/user_upload...nner_Outer.pdf

So you see the wagon and that last one are the same.

[blizzard335]

HOLD UP!!

The wagon calipers are not the same as the Prelude VTEC calipers, and I have pics to prove (atleast as JDM is concerned)

CB9 = 17CL14VN
BB4 = 17CL15VN
CF2 = 17CL15VN