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    A/C died? Get the 134a Retrofit kit

    after asking around and researching
    some people say that we need to bring the car to the shop and have it retrofitted for about $180.
    others say something else

    but my answer is.....

    i went to Walmart today and bought the EZChill recharge and retrofit kit for 40 bucks

    it is just-

    3 cans of 134a recharge
    2 adapters - one for high another for the low
    1 pressure gauge
    1 sticker -saying

    Notice
    134a Retrofit procedure performed to SAE J1161


    directions is simple

    1. plug the adaptors on
    2. charge!

    thats it
    Last edited by accord=inspire?; 06-27-2009, 11:33 PM.

    #2
    ok.

    just fill her up

    low side should be at 25-35 PSI. & ofcourse turn the AC on while filling it.


    btw I think the CB is 2 cans only



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      #3
      will do it next weekend..........

      still got 1 week of summer sessions....


      hope this helps others

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        #4
        Originally posted by Night Wolf View Post
        ok.

        just fill her up

        low side should be at 25-35 PSI. & ofcourse turn the AC on while filling it.


        btw I think the CB is 2 cans only
        im curious whats the high side for?

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          #5
          I've retrofitted and filled 3-4 Accords now with those kits. One thing I highly recommend is changing all the o-rings in the system. If there is no freon in the system, it must have leaked out. Just recharging it may work long term but there's also a good chance the o-rings are old and dried out causing everything to leak back out after 1 month.

          I changed all my o-rings and it's been 2 years since I've done it and still blows cold and never had to refill. Not bad for a $40 kit and a handful of o-rings. And yes, it was roughly 2 cans for the cb's. Sometimes you need to jump the pressure switch to get the A/C to start up initially when first filling.

          BTW, the high side fitting isn't used with the cheap kit but when recharging with a "proper" kit, they put hoses on both low and high side to measure system pressure.

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            #6
            Originally posted by YK86 View Post
            I've retrofitted and filled 3-4 Accords now with those kits. One thing I highly recommend is changing all the o-rings in the system. If there is no freon in the system, it must have leaked out. Just recharging it may work long term but there's also a good chance the o-rings are old and dried out causing everything to leak back out after 1 month.

            I changed all my o-rings and it's been 2 years since I've done it and still blows cold and never had to refill. Not bad for a $40 kit and a handful of o-rings. And yes, it was roughly 2 cans for the cb's. Sometimes you need to jump the pressure switch to get the A/C to start up initially when first filling.

            BTW, the high side fitting isn't used with the cheap kit but when recharging with a "proper" kit, they put hoses on both low and high side to measure system pressure.
            sorry mate, but
            what are o-rings? pics would be nice.
            where are they located?
            what are the steps to change them?
            where can i get new o rings?

            thanks

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              #7
              Originally posted by YK86 View Post
              I've retrofitted and filled 3-4 Accords now with those kits. One thing I highly recommend is changing all the o-rings in the system. If there is no freon in the system, it must have leaked out. Just recharging it may work long term but there's also a good chance the o-rings are old and dried out causing everything to leak back out after 1 month.

              I changed all my o-rings and it's been 2 years since I've done it and still blows cold and never had to refill. Not bad for a $40 kit and a handful of o-rings. And yes, it was roughly 2 cans for the cb's. Sometimes you need to jump the pressure switch to get the A/C to start up initially when first filling.

              BTW, the high side fitting isn't used with the cheap kit but when recharging with a "proper" kit, they put hoses on both low and high side to measure system pressure.
              Changing the O-rings wont help if you have a leak in your lines, condenser or evaporator.
              You can replace all your O-rings and still have a leak.

              If you never removed your lines, or replaced your condenser just charge it up.
              More than likely its going to leak out again, thats when you have to add a dye to the system to pinpoint the leak.


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                #8
                Originally posted by JaK FRoSTWhiTE View Post
                Changing the O-rings wont help if you have a leak in your lines, condenser or evaporator.
                You can replace all your O-rings and still have a leak.
                Yes, very true, not going to disagree. I never though to mention leaking from those places. For me, changing the o-rings is just a preventative thing like changing the oil seals on an older motor, you don't have to but why not just do it and get it over with? I think there's something like 9 or 10 o-rings for the Accord. That's a lot of places it can leak from especially if the system has been unused/empty for so long.

                The first car I did was my brother's 96 Accord. Filled it up without doing anything (his was already r134a from the factory) and one week later, it was dead again. Changed all the o-rings and never leaked again. So even since then, I just change the o-rings first while it's empty.


                BTW, to the OP, you can buy the o-rings from Honda or the local parts store. They are just rubber seals that go on the end of the hoses/lines. If the local auto store carries metric sizes, you can get all of them for much cheaper there but the local one near my place only had standard size so the metric ones I couldn't match up I had to order from Honda. 3 different sizes, the following numbers in the pic below (90 EX, just to give you an idea):#5, #40, #41.

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                  #9
                  so those three rings are the main ones that should be replaced correct?

                  also i heard honda sells a retro kit with the rings included, anybody confirm this?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by alkoholikwun View Post
                    so those three rings are the main ones that should be replaced correct?

                    also i heard honda sells a retro kit with the rings included, anybody confirm this?
                    the one i got doesnt include the rings

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                      #11
                      I just installed a retrofit kit a few days ago in my accord. My dad does HVAC for a living, so we used a vacuum pump to remove all the old r12 the same way a shop would...this is the most critical step to a successful retrofit.

                      Also, my freon was also leaking and the a/c didn't get very cold...well it turned out that my leak was at the high and low side ports, so installing the new adapters fixed the leak.

                      Also, I used that exact same EZchill retrofit kit. We removed all the old r12 like I said and held the car at a 30mm-Hg vacuum for about an hour, and then the car took 2 1/2 of the supplied cans of r134a.

                      You don't need to replace anything in your system with that kit unless something is leaking. The oil mixed in with the r134a in that kit is made to work with the seals in a typical r12 system. So, before you go doing all that, see if maybe it's just leaking at the ports like mine was.
                      There are no black and white suspension answers!!!!!!!!!!!

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                        #12
                        Be careful when you're screwing the adapter on, mine wasnt threaded on all the way, so i went to tighten it and i broke the low side fill off. That was fine though, the fitting got ruined somehow anyways, and it was irrelevant because it has a leak somewhere else anyways. Just remember, be careful!
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