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    Possible clutch issues

    Could use some help here. I have a 90 Accord LX 5 speed with manual transmission (obviously), and think the clutch might be going out. Here are my indications.

    *Very little room (2 inches-ish) between engaged and out of gear
    *some minor squeak at takeoff, sometimes (but not in any of the higher gears)
    *seen two valets stall the car (though the Honda may not have compared to the M3 they drove over with.
    *Clutch and first two syncros were replaced about 48,000 miles ago.

    I don't believe that there is an adjustment cable, correct? I read a post on here about bleeding the clutch master cylinder, would that help? If the clutch is indeed failing, should I have it replaced now, or wait until I can't get it into gear? If I should have it replaced what would you estimate a fair price would be, for a daily driver clutch installed?
    Last edited by doylna; 05-20-2004, 12:00 AM.
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    #2
    get a OEM clutch, dealership will do it, cost about 1,000 bux or so.. it would cost you about 700-800 bux for a racing clutch without installation.. so if its not a racing car get oem.

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      #3
      The problem may be the master or SLAVE cylinder, though it is sometimes both. They take a little over an hour each to replace, including bleed time. I can get the Original Equipment units to you for $70 for the Master, and $45 for the Slave, plus shipping. The part numbers are 46920-SM4-A03 and 46930-SM4-003, respectively.
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        #4
        Originally posted by xplode
        get a OEM clutch, dealership will do it, cost about 1,000 bux or so.. it would cost you about 700-800 bux for a racing clutch without installation.. so if its not a racing car get oem.
        WTF?!? You can get an OEM clutch for ~ 150 and racing clutches range from 300-500 with shipping. Installation shouldn't be more than 200. It is very possible you could have a leaky clutch cylinder. I had one on my car and that's how it felt so get a shop to check it out before you blow money on a new clutch.

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          #5
          Xplode: Come on bro, do a lil research before commenting, don't want to be an a$$ but I've been seeing alot of that lately. I've dealt with far too many misconceptions by people who take things 2nd or 3rd hand and give advice to others with that "false" info. Research & ask many people before you take it as truth aight.
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            #6
            ohh shit man. i meant tranny prices.. w00psie lols.. my bad hoes..
            Fan: lose the additude meng.
            Last edited by xplode; 01-21-2004, 06:36 PM.

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              #7
              AHHHH shit bro thats the ordeal with it. For starters dont let those valet assholes drive your shit they will run it into the ground as soon as they round the corner in the lot. But anyway here to start off for starters. take the car to a reputable shop to beed the slave cylinder and then the clutch master cylinder.


              It should help out a little if its still messed up between gears you may need a clutch adjustment. If that doesnt help as far as the squeeling you may have to change the clutch. Do you feel any difference in your shifting like as far as pedal pressure did you make sure your fluid is on the up and up.
              It depends on the shop that does it make sure you get a warrantee and they are ASE certified dont take it to honda they will rape you flip you over look at you ask is everything okay and plug you again with labor. Take it to a speed shop reputably they will tell you whats wrong quicker than the evil hondaman.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Kabuki
                The problem may be the master or SLAVE cylinder, though it is sometimes both. They take a little over an hour each to replace, including bleed time. I can get the Original Equipment units to you for $70 for the Master, and $45 for the Slave, plus shipping. The part numbers are 46920-SM4-A03 and 46930-SM4-003, respectively.
                I just found this thread I started 5 months ago....

                What are the indications that it's one of the cylinders as opposed
                to the clutch itself?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by h22sparkle
                  AHHHH shit bro thats the ordeal with it. For starters dont let those valet assholes drive your shit they will run it into the ground as soon as they round the corner in the lot. But anyway here to start off for starters. take the car to a reputable shop to beed the slave cylinder and then the clutch master cylinder.

                  It should help out a little if its still messed up between gears you may need a clutch adjustment. If that doesnt help as far as the squeeling you may have to change the clutch. Do you feel any difference in your shifting like as far as pedal pressure did you make sure your fluid is on the up and up. It depends on the shop that does it make sure you get a warrantee and they are ASE certified dont take it to honda they will rape you flip you over look at you ask is everything okay and plug you again with labor. Take it to a speed shop reputably they will tell you whats wrong quicker than the evil hondaman.
                  Well it was at a wedding, and I was the last person in before she walked down the aisle. I had no choice but to valet the car. Hell I liked seeing them trying to drive a Honda. They did park it right out front though, next to a Bentley.

                  Anyway, I never did think to check the clutch fluid. I'll do that tomorrow morning. If the master and slave cylinders are bled, what does that do? Essentially fluff the pedal back up so that there is more play between in and out of gear?

                  Why do they need to be bled in the first place? And what kind of shop should I try? I have a local mechanic who rocks, but is expensive, but honest. Would I be better off going to a transmission shop?

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                    #10
                    your better off breakin out a helms and doin it yourself. The main reason they need to be bled is because it reacts in response off of pedal pressure. As for the fluid you may wanna check the fluid everytime you bleed it cause if it goes past a certain point you have to refill and bleed it again..

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by h22sparkle
                      your better off breakin out a helms and doin it yourself. The main reason they need to be bled is because it reacts in response off of pedal pressure. As for the fluid you may wanna check the fluid everytime you bleed it cause if it goes past a certain point you have to refill and bleed it again..
                      Well I don't have a Helms, but I do have the online Honda manual. I'm not entirely inclined to do it myself, as I've never done it and don't want to F it up. How much would a shop charge to do it do you think? I don't even know if that will fix it. Like I said before I don't think I need a new clutch it only has 50,000 miles on it.

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                        #12
                        get in the car release the bolt slightly to let fluid bleed out know on the tranny with a wrench sooo . then pump to get more pedal pressure I mean really have the person keep punpin the clutch pedal. Then bleed it be sure to keep your eye on the level of the resevoir make sure it doesnt get too low or youll have to start over keep doin this until you get good pressure if that doesnt help. a new slave cylinder or the clutch master cylinder needs replacing change 1 if that dont work do the next one and o on. keep us posted

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                          #13
                          You make it sound easy. let me be clear, I have no idea what I'm doing. Do you think this is still something I can do myself?

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                            #14
                            you can do it yourself but oneperson is better at pumpin while in the car while you let it out with a wrench 10 or 12mm i think. you turn the knob on the shing thats stickin off the tranny its gonna look like a hose part but with no hose at the end of it after you take off the little plastic boot if there isnt one on there. Tthe wrench to pump it check your pm

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                              #15
                              I tried to reposnd to your PM, but there wasn't a # inside the message. Shoot it to me again and I'll give you a call today.

                              Thanks for all your help.

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