clutch bleeder

[91whitecb7]

hey guys.. well i got my h22 in the car.. but when i looked.. i saw that the clutch bleeder at the front of the tranny broke off.. it probably broke off when i was putting the motor in.. could i just clog it up? or should i have to replace it? i filled my clutch reservoir with fluid and started to pump the clutch pedal.. the pedal still has no resistance in it.. could the broken bleeder be the cause of this?

[CoPilot1]

i would replace the bleeder, definitely, that is most likely the cause of your pedal trouble

[Cerberus2k7]

ah...I thought you needed a vaccum bleeder to bleed those clutches?

[deserthonda]

ah...I thought you needed a vaccum bleeder to bleed those clutches?

you can use it if you are alone,, or you can have a friend pump the clutch pedal up and you can loosen up the bleeder screw , ,,,,,, just like you would bleed the brake system ,,,

[F22-GURU]

You can Gravity Bleed the Slave Cylinder, but like the Sand Man says, it is best to have a friend Pump & Hold the clutch pedal for you. If you are doing it at home then use a hose and container to catch the fluid, then wash off with water.
If you are doing it at a friends place make as much mess as you want.

[91whitecb7]

oh ok.. so i shouldnt just clog it up? shouldnt the pedal still feel resistance tho? i remember when i was draining the clutch fluid it out through the bleeder.. it still had resistance.. or i dunno.. ill try and fix it today. .thanks guys

[PRIMOCB7]

ah...I thought you needed a vaccum bleeder to bleed those clutches?

not the best way to bleed the clutch.


now, here's a method you can do this by yourself, but someone to help out would be faster.

- place a transparent hose at the bleeder screw of the clutch slave cylinder and run the other end into a bottle half-filled with brake fluid making sure the end of the hose is fully submerged. also, keep the clutch MC cover off.

- one person to lock/unlock and the other to push down/pull up the pedal.

PROCEDURE:

1st person: unlock bleeder screw
2nd person: push the clutch pedal down(straight down and DO NOT PUMP!!)
1st person: lock bleeder screw after you see the fluid pass thru
2nd person: pull the clutch pedal up
*** remember to keep on eye the clutch MC and to keep it full during this process***

continue to do this until there are NO MORE bubbles in the hose; the lesser the bubbles, the faster the fluid in the MC will flow so ALWAYS make sure the clutch MC has fluid in it.

[crewfish13]

When there's air in the system, the clutch pedal will probably depress completely to the floor easily and stay there. Your best bet is to buy a cheap bleeder valve (I don't think they make speedbleeders for clutches) and follow PRIMO's procedure. During bleeding, it generally takes several cycles before you start to feel resistance, and several more beyond that to get all the air out.

**Make sure you close the bleeder before releasing/pulling up the clutch pedal. Otherwise you'll just be sucking air in.**

[91whitecb7]

i cant close my bleeder because its broken.. that was the purpose of this thread.. haha.. but ill see what i can do.. i might clog it up and see what happens

[h22sparkle]

Or you can do what i did. take 1 small tiny tupperware bowl from lke the chinese store when they give you wantan soup and a smalle clear see through hose that fits snuggly over the nipple bleeder. thne fill the cup up with the clear see through hose inside the bleeder filled with the brake fluid in it. Then release the clutch bleeder valve.

Then push the pedal down and close the valve then pull it up slowly. That way no air gets back inside the system kinda like a one way valve. Be sure to pump atleast 20 times then release. Its good to have 2 people do this method to get best results. make sure you also keep the fluid at level because you dont want any excess air gettin intot he lines if that happens you have to do it over to make sure.

[91whitecb7]

i wish i could do that.. but the bleeder itself is broken.. as in.. it broke off when i swapped engines.. i ahve no clue how it happened.. so.. there is no more bleeder valve.. therefore.. there is just a hole.. that is all. the valve broke off..

[NAiL05]

Get a new slave cylinder. That would be the easiest way by the looks of it if it just broke off.

[HondaFan81]

You already have air in your system because of the clutch slave bleeder screw being damaged. Disconnect the slave cylinder to remove it completely, deal with fixing it outside the car or replace, whatever you want to do. Reinstall, and bleed the system, make sure to get a bottle of brake fluid. I see it this way...you already are going to have to bleed the system anyhow because of your present status, what does it hurt in removing the slave cylinder anyhow?? You already have air in the system.

[91whitecb7]

yeah thats tru.. i guess ill be doing that.. thanks guys

[91whitecb7]

anyone have a slave cylinder sitting around???