doesn't start when warm up

[kouzie]

sorry i try the search box but this what i get:
Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 129 bytes) in /home/cbatune/public_html/vbb/search.php on line 835
so i figure i do one of these...

today my car been funny...it never does that before..
i start up the car and drove for fews hours...
i stop at gas station or whatever for like 5 minutes(shut off engine)..
When i got back I start the car up this what i get:
start right up and quickly die...unless i push on gas which i don't want to(bad idea) ...
wait a fews minutes then start fine again ..
BUT once i stop again and shut off engine; this time it didn't start at all..
ALL I HEAR IS CLICK..CLICK...CLICK...this time have to wait a long time. ..
ONLY DOES THAT WHEN ENGINE IS WARM(HOT)...
What could it be??ECU?? heat senor??
I'm not a pro so i'm asking you guys for idea, so don't call me stupid..
thanks you guys!!!!

[accordaffair]

Sounds like main relay

[kouzie]

Sounds like main relay

main relay??

[Fake Thug]

main relay??

yup....under driver's side dash.brown relay. just pull it out and resolder the joints

[kouzie]

yup....under driver's side dash.brown relay. just pull it out and resolder the joints

driver side dash/brown relay...got that...
i'll check it tomorrow afternoon and see what's up...
hope that'll be the problem...
thanks guys...

[accordaffair]

http://autorepair.about.com/cs/doity...l/bl_hmr_1.htm

http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainrelay.html

http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainr...ion/index.html

http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainr...mainrelay.html

http://techauto.tripod.com/mainrelay.htm

http://www.marklamond.co.uk/tech-hon...main-relay.htm

This info will help you diagnose and, if needed, repair your main relay

[kouzie]

OH DAM...thats some nice info...
this is why i love this site......
thanks again guys...

[kouzie]

alright...got the dam relay out...not as easy as i think...
now the problem is where can i get it???
autostore should have it don't you guys think??
or i have to get it from dealer??

[accordaffair]

You can just resolder the connections, thats usually all that fails

If you really need to buy one, check

Relay Assy., Main (RZ-0088) (Mitsuba) 39400-SM4-003

$43 from majestic

Or this guy sells Honda parts used on ebay, I buy from him alot, he's selling relays for $30 (he know its a commonly sought after item, else it'd be cheaper)

http://search.stores.ebay.com/HONDA-...528253QQsofpZ0

[kouzie]

now thats what i'm talking about.......
THANKS...hope its all because of the relay...
let you guys know what happen next if after i replace and still do the same thing...
thanks again......

[kouzie]

You can just resolder the connections, thats usually all that fails

If you really need to buy one, check

Relay Assy., Main (RZ-0088) (Mitsuba) 39400-SM4-003

$43 from majestic

Or this guy sells Honda parts used on ebay, I buy from him alot, he's selling relays for $30 (he know its a commonly sought after item, else it'd be cheaper)

http://search.stores.ebay.com/HONDA-...528253QQsofpZ0

thanks...it seen to be working fine now...
its raining so i can't really tell...i'll just have to wait until its warm again...
thanks again for all the help..

[SN2BH22CB7]

Yeah mayne...what accordaffair is telling you...is EVIDENT!

resolder ALL the points..TRUST ME...I had to redo my solder on my girl's Cb7..hers started up....ran for a few minutes..then died!....tried to start it...NO START...crank but NO START...then. ( this is how I found out it was the MFR )...I pulled the plugs..and stuck em back in the wires..and layed them on the VC....had her to turn the key...GETTING SPARK....ok...put the plugs back in..( eliminated the ignition system )...so...I took the gas cap off.....took the Neg. Bat cable off...and then unscrewed the fuel rail banjonut off...then..put back on the Neg Cable..had her to turn the key..NO FUEL surge ..

Ok...( NO FUEL ...Fuel system is faulty now to check the fuel components )

I jumped the MFR harness..and fuel came out of the rail! ...( Pump is GOOD )

took the MFR out...look at the solder...and it APPEARED to be fine!

DO NOT LET THE "LOOK" fool you!

RESOLDER ALL OF EM!

after I soldered it....( first time ) No start...because I neglected some of the points...RESOLDERED ALL POINTS....reinstalled the second time..and ( FUEL )...STARTED right up!

sorry for the long essay..but Im really trying to help my fellow cb7 family!

so yeah!! RESOLDER "ALL" the points to avoid having to resolder it in the near future!

UNLESS the board itself is bad...then you would need a new MFR!

[cp[mike]]

if not the main relay, it may be the Ignitor unit inside of the distributor.

[SN2BH22CB7]

if not the main relay, it may be the Ignitor unit inside of the distributor.

he could just swap out the Dizzy! instead of trying to tear it apart!

[kouzie]

Yeah mayne...what accordaffair is telling you...is EVIDENT!

resolder ALL the points..TRUST ME...I had to redo my solder on my girl's Cb7..hers started up....ran for a few minutes..then died!....tried to start it...NO START...crank but NO START...then. ( this is how I found out it was the MFR )...I pulled the plugs..and stuck em back in the wires..and layed them on the VC....had her to turn the key...GETTING SPARK....ok...put the plugs back in..( eliminated the ignition system )...so...I took the gas cap off.....took the Neg. Bat cable off...and then unscrewed the fuel rail banjonut off...then..put back on the Neg Cable..had her to turn the key..NO FUEL surge ..

Ok...( NO FUEL ...Fuel system is faulty now to check the fuel components )

I jumped the MFR harness..and fuel came out of the rail! ...( Pump is GOOD )

took the MFR out...look at the solder...and it APPEARED to be fine!

DO NOT LET THE "LOOK" fool you!

RESOLDER ALL OF EM!

after I soldered it....( first time ) No start...because I neglected some of the points...RESOLDERED ALL POINTS....reinstalled the second time..and ( FUEL )...STARTED right up!

sorry for the long essay..but Im really trying to help my fellow cb7 family!

so yeah!! RESOLDER "ALL" the points to avoid having to resolder it in the near future!

UNLESS the board itself is bad...then you would need a new MFR!

it sure is a long essay but very helpful tip...
i have replace the dam thing and seen to start fine...Now all i need is to run it for a very long time and see if it can start....
I'll do that in the weekend since i'm busy on the weekdays...
THANK YOU