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Old 09-10-2011, 08:32 AM   #41
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Thanks for clearing that up for me!
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Old 09-10-2011, 08:37 PM   #42
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where can i get manual rack?
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Old 09-10-2011, 10:10 PM   #43
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Thanks for clearing that up for me!
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where can i get manual rack?
This DIY is for converting the power rack to manual. Accords never had manual racks
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Old 09-13-2011, 11:39 AM   #44
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So i'm redoing the manual rack with the one I originally took out, i'm not going to cut the ring off of the rod this time. Curious though when you say "do not install cylinder back its not necessary and its extra weight" are you talking about the big silver sleeve? I put that back when I originally did mine and am now thinking that's my problem, just want to verify that's what you're talking about before i put the next one back together!

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thats not the problem, what you are doing is eliminating the seal either way.

its a piston, a piston ring, and a cylinder, if you remove just the seal there is a chance you would get metal to metal contact from the "big silver sleeve" and the piston... remove either and the problem is solved.

the "big silver sleeve" also acts as the retainer for the rack bushing on the passenger side of the car, with out the sleeve that bushing could walk out and end up somewhere in the middle of the rack where it would do nothing.

that is the only reason i left the sleeve and machined the piston off the rack. although mine is alot less reversable than just removing a sleeve.

so you see it does not matter which you do... what you are feeling as "play" is the rack moving.

under normal operation the piston holds tight with the outer sleeve and any movement out of round is minimized by the thin layer of PS fluid between them.

once the seal is gone there is nothing holding the rack on the passenger side you are basically trying to support the rack at the geared portion and just leting the rest hang out there.

edit: Short, I know that did not really answer a question was just trying fully inform you of the possible setups, incase the only reason you were rebuilding it was because you though you did it worng.
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Old 01-28-2012, 01:06 PM   #45
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I am sorry to bring up a old thread but say I have a leaking power steering rack and I don't feel like fixing it. I have another rack from a parts car that I bought for 25 bucks. I saw that I could get something called a steering quickener http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Small-...DisplayId=8280. Could a manual rack and this steering quickener be a good combo?
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Old 01-31-2012, 06:49 PM   #46
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see i wanna keep ac and ps, but have a clean bay, my solution, relocate both into trunk and run them off a 12v continuous motor that spins around 2-3k rpm, think about it you have ps and ac at idle so at 3k it should be good. and then all i gotta do is worry bout ac lines to the front and ps lines will be hard lines.
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Old 01-31-2012, 09:50 PM   #47
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Old 02-12-2012, 02:45 PM   #48
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Thanks for the detailed write up, Ill have to do this also when time permits, for the mean time I took off the PS belt when I changed to a non a/c belt. Engine wraps up so much faster without all that drag from the PS pump and A/C compressor
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Old 05-21-2012, 04:27 PM   #49
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if anyone has step-by-step re-assembly pics, I would love to see them.

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Old 05-23-2012, 09:05 AM   #50
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Old 07-14-2012, 03:24 AM   #51
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Does anyone have any figures on performance or efficiency improvements due to the removal of the power steering pump (and possibly the VSS change as well, although I would think this much less than the power steering pump)? I'm interested in trying this out for the sake of increased fuel efficiency, as well as gaining some extra power. Someone mentioned the engine "wraps up" faster, but I have no idea what that means...
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:21 PM   #52
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if anyone has step-by-step re-assembly pics, I would love to see them.

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Does anyone have any figures on performance or efficiency improvements due to the removal of the power steering pump (and possibly the VSS change as well, although I would think this much less than the power steering pump)? I'm interested in trying this out for the sake of increased fuel efficiency, as well as gaining some extra power. Someone mentioned the engine "wraps up" faster, but I have no idea what that means...
No need to change the vss. Yes the rpms will rev a little faster, You may get .5hp, Fuel economy depends on how you drive.
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Old 01-11-2013, 05:29 PM   #53
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any specific grease to use?
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:30 AM   #54
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nice write up but how about posting pic on how to take the rack out what need to be remove and what dont
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:20 PM   #55
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excellent i took my p/s out ac was deleted by previous owner when he put the new rebuilt eng in it. if my tires are pumped up where they should be i can steer with the palm of my hand even from a stand still. only when they lose air pressure it get's hard to turn but i dont regret it one bit.
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:35 PM   #56
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with out doing these mods its super tough to drive an accord with out PS. I prefer to have power steering and finally bought a pump, BUT considering the amount of work put into the conversion and the kind gesture of the OP to upload the knowledge, I would say its a worth while mod.

I go the the junk yard and see mods the people talk about on cb7t on alot of cars in the yard.
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:39 PM   #57
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Alright guys I got it all apart and cleaned, now what grease have you guys been using to put it all back together?
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Old 02-05-2013, 07:22 PM   #58
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with out doing these mods its super tough to drive an accord with out PS. I prefer to have power steering and finally bought a pump, BUT considering the amount of work put into the conversion and the kind gesture of the OP to upload the knowledge, I would say its a worth while mod.

I go the the junk yard and see mods the people talk about on cb7t on alot of cars in the yard.
do you have toothpicks for arms? i did a ps delete and i can still turn my car with the palm of my hand. either way accords arn't hard to steer without ps they are actually pritty easy
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:34 AM   #59
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nah bro im actually kinda big, see i didnt delete or convert to manual rack. I just removed the belt and pump(but i replaced that already) and i can say that doing u turns parallel parking and other fun things were a chore with out PS fuck that Ill always keep my PS
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:50 PM   #60
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tire's inflated to proper pressure? i dont have mine converted to manual and i can steer witht he palm of my hand and im only 5'9" 200lbs
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