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    H1N1 has jumped multiple species barriers

    The following report from Dr Henry Niman of Recombinomics is the most up to date information on the evolution of the H1N1 Pandemic that is sweeping the world.

    Now comes this: H1N1 has jumped multiple species barriers!

    Why is that big news- big scarey news? Because normally, viruses that cause the flu are species specific. They do not infect many different types of animals along with humans. They usually stay put within one species.

    That is good because if they jump into another species, then all of the viruses normally found in that other speices have a chance to mix or recombine into another virus that is altogether new. A new virus that now shares some or all of the characteristics of all of the viruses involved in the mix.

    My nightmare scenario has always been:

    What would happen if you mixed H1N1 with H5N1?

    H5N1 is the bird flu and is endemic among all birds on this planet. This means that practically 100% of all birds carry this virus, which does not make them sick. They just carry it.

    But!-occasionally the H5N1 will jump into a human host and cause a severe infection that is about 60% fatal! Fortunately, the H5N1 in a human is not easily transmitted to another human, so it does not spread to cause an epidemic of H5N1. Whew!

    Wait- not so fast. What would happen if you got H5N1 and H1N1 present at the same time in either a bird or human being? Would those two viruses mix?

    And what would the resulting mixed virus be like?

    Here's the nightmare scenario:

    The new hybrid mixed virus could have the high kill rate of H5N1 and the easy transmisibility from human to human of H1N1.

    Now you have a killer virus on the loose all over the planet that in all likelihood would out do the 1918 'Spanish Flu'.

    Remember, the 1918 flu killed 100 million world-wide with a mortality rate of only 2%. How many would die if you had a virus with a mortality rate of 60%? In simple terms, a kill rate that is 30 times higher would produce 30 times the deaths.

    The simple math is: 100 million X 30 = 3 billion dead people!

    Now to be sure- this has not happened yet and may never happen.

    This is theoretical and speculative.

    But do you see why I call it the nightmare scenario?

    Let's now leave the theoretical and the speculative and take a look at the real world evwents unfolding right now in the Ukraine.

    We don't know much yet- but -

    according to preliminary reports from the Health Ministry there -

    a mutated H1N1 virus or an entirely new virus is speading at an exponential rate- doubling daily- with a mortality rate that is 10 times that of the regular H1N1 in the United States!

    This is shocking terrifying news.

    We must pray that this will all fizzle out and not spread widely. If this goes global, then we have according to the simple math- 1 billion possible deaths!

    So, get prepared and stay prepared. We have a long bumpy road ahead. May Allah bless us all to make it through the storm.

    H1N1 Jumps to Pets Raise Pandemic Concerns

    Recombinomics Commentary 23:23November 7, 2009

    As human infections become increasingly widespread, transmission of the virus from humans to swine is likely to occur with greater frequency.In addition, pandemic H1N1 infections have been reported in turkeys in Chile and Canada and in a few pet animals in the USA. Again, these infections were isolated events and pose no special risks to human health.The above comments from the WHO update on H1N1 in farmed animals suggests the infections in turkeys and pets pose no special risks to human health, However, this statement would be true only in the narrowest sense. Pandemic H1N1 is widespread in humans and the vast majority of infections of humans are from virus in other humans. However, the ability of this virus to jump species increases viral interactions that can result in the exchange of genetic information via recombination and reassortment.Transmission to swine has been reported at an increasing frequency. Yesterday a jump to swine in Taiwan was reported and today a jump to swine in Hong Kong was reported. Multiple examples in North and South America, as well as Europe, Asia, and Australia have been reported previously, and as the level of H1N1 in humans increases, the frequency of such jumps will likely increase.However, the pandemic H1N1 is a swine virus, so there have been prior opportunities to acquire genetic information from viruses that co-infect swine. The report of jumps to turkeys however, increased concern that the virus was quite promiscuous and could jump to multiple species.The concerns were increased by two reports of jumps to pet ferrets. Last year a virus from the first reported natural infection in ferrets was found to be an H1N1 classical swine virus. Therefore, a jump of swine H1N1 to pet ferrets was not unexpected. However, these jumps were accompanied by assurances about jumps in other pets, since H1N1 had not been previously reported in cats or dogs. However, the ability of the virus to jump to other mammals was increased by the reports of jumps to avian species , such as the turkeys described above.Moreover, the pandemic H1N1 had a high attack rate. The explosion of cases in the fall was tightly linked to school openings. The virus would quickly spread in schools leading to double digit absenteeism and associated infections of teachers and staff. In schools that had absences in the range of 20-30% for periods of 1-2 weeks attack rates approaching 100%. This high attack rate in schools has also been reported in anecdotal reports of family attack rates of 100%.The high attack rates are facilitate by multiple exposures within a families residence. However, this frequent exposure would also apply to family pets that were kept indoors.The concerns were supported by the recent report of H1N1 in a pet cat. This was the first reported case because of the availability of testing and not due to a unique association / exposures. Concerns that such transfers might be common were supported by anecdotal reports of cats and dogs developing flu-like symptoms following infection in owners and family members. These anecdotal reports suggest that testing of these symptomatic pets will identify a number of such jumps, which raises concerns of interactions with other animal virus.These interactions can lead to rapid evolution, and the proximity and transmissibility of pandemic H1N1 will lead to frequent transmission to humans.Extended surveys of sequences from pet isolates should be a top priority
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    Evidence is begining to suggest that the assumed 'swine flu virus' in the Ukraine may be a new mutated strain, or an altogether different virus, according to a Ukrainian health official. Suspiciously, WHO is withholding vital information about the gene sequences of this killer virus. Gene sequencing is what will indicate the nature of the Ukrainian virus. The emerging epidemic in Ukraine s completely different from what has been seen so far in the US and other countries of the world. Troubling new hot-spots in Bulgaria and Afghanistan may be related events. One is reminded of the dire warning three months ago from an Israeli Mossad agent, Joseph Moshe, that Baxter Labs had prepared a special flu vaccine that in reality is a bio-weapon designed to kill people.
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    The first deputy minister of Health in Ukraine said in a statement that they have a different h1n1 swine flu than the rest of the world and US. In 6 days 500 000 people have been infected, 93 confirmed deaths. Statements from a lot of departments and officials seem to disagree but the fact is that if this is the h1n1 it might of either mutated or this is another swine flu strain.
    The reason for this is obviously as stated above and that the strain in the Ukraine has a much bigger rate of filling the lungs with blood. This can be blamed on lack of public health but according to sources this is not the case. The plague or virus in the Ukraine has 10 times the mortality rate than the normal swine flu.
    In a paper published in microbioligy news called resurecting influenza pandemic strains. The author regonized 5 strains of weaponized flu.
    Confirmation that this is a mutated version: (or not a mutation of h1n1 but a viral pneumonia which is something different)
    1. 250 000 to 500 000 infected in one day, way faster than any other country the h1n1 has been
    2. Many cases of viral pneomonia where the lungs fill with blood, a much higher viral pneomonia rate than any other country
    3. Ukraine Health minister said himself that "swine flu has mutated"
    4. Much bigger death rate than normal
    The most cases are in the rural north west area of the Ukraine. That statistics are not unusual for a few months but this is for a few days.
    On the ground though, unconfirmed reports say that people are going on as normal, they also say that this is fear mongering. (speaking to locals)
    WHO needs to confirm that the genes have are different, if they are not that means the swine flu has not mutated.
    Everyone is waiting for the gene sequences which will confirm whether this has been hyped up, a real mutated h1n1 or just bad health services in the Ukraine.
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      #3
      im pretty sure this is wat those "poweres that be" have always wanted in the first place...take care of yourselfs peeps!

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        #4
        More conspiracy theorists? Yaaaay....


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          #5
          Flu my ass. If you die , you die. Nuff said.

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            #6
            h1n1 has been around for a LONG time...first outbreak was what early 1900's?

            it is a combo of flu from two species...pig and bird...so it's ALREADY jumped species.

            There have been cats infected with it here in texas...but no evidance that the cats that get it can spread it to humans...so humans or other animals give it to cats...but the cats can't give it to humans.

            Look folks..stop freaking out...it's just a freakin' flu virus that our immune systems have not yet been exposed to, that's why you see deaths from it...actually it's in the news because it's an "outbreak" we don't go postal in the news with deaths from regular flu so get over it...

            treat it like the regular flu, if your temp won't drop after taking 500mg of acetaminophen (tylenol) go to the er...otherwise...stay home and treat the symptoms...guess what...you don't treat a virus...you treat the symptoms.

            sure tamiflu and some other drugs will...but generally you only need to treat the symptoms.

            As a society our immune systems are no longer capable of fighting off diseases because like anything (take muscles for example) if it doesn't get exercise it will diminish.
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              #7
              Originally posted by foamypirate View Post
              More conspiracy theorists? Yaaaay....


              Ukraine In Lockdown Amidst Swine Flu Scare | Print | E-mail
              Written by Alex Newman
              Sunday, 08 November 2009 17:00
              Martial law was effectively declared in the Ukraine last week by unpopular President Victor Yushchenko after an outbreak of what health officials described as flu and respiratory infections. The outbreak has reportedly already infected hundreds of thousands of people in the western regions of the country. In response, the office of the President on November 6 floated the idea of postponing the presidential election until May of next year.

              Yushchenko claimed that "unlike similar epidemics in other countries, three pathogens of viral infections came to Ukraine at the same time: two of them are seasonal flu and the third is the A/H1N1." He added that "such a combination of infections due to mutation may produce a new, even more aggressive virus," that "the A/H1N1 virus is easily mutating," and that "the virus has become particularly pathogenic." However, some analysts have suggested the true culprit is in fact a political struggle among diverse factions and politicians vying for power.

              Health officials reported on November 5 that 95 people have died of flu and respiratory infections due to the outbreak. So far only about 20 cases of swine flu have reportedly been confirmed in the country of about 40 million people. The World Health Organization (WHO) has stated that it is assuming that the outbreak was caused by the H1N1 swine flu virus. Several nations including Slovakia have all but shut down border crossings with Ukraine in an attempt to contain the infections while the Ukrainian government appeals for international aid.

              Ukrainian health officials on November 6 claimed on the ministry’s website that over 800,000 people had been infected with some sort of acute respiratory ailment, and that at least three deaths were linked to the swine flu. Some news reports have claimed the number of confirmed swine flu deaths is actually above 10. But the outbreak is showing signs of easing, according to the Deputy Health Minister.

              However, the government still responded with a heavy hand. The “National Security and Defense Council should become the center of decision-making,” said Ukrainian President Yushchenko in a statement, referring to an executive body composed of the President, the Prime Minister, the Minster of Defense, the Foreign Minister, the chief of the security service, and the Minister of the Interior. “Failure to comply with its orders will immediately result in application to the law enforcement authorities.... For not a single moment you will be left alone by the state.”

              A quarantine has been imposed on at least nine provinces of the country, while the government announced that all schools would be closed for at least three weeks due to the infections. Large public gatherings, churches, and even movie theaters have been banned temporarily, while the President is urging all citizens to be vaccinated and the criminal prosecution of resisters.

              The President is also seeking to use the circumstances in a bid to squash political opposition and prosecute certain government officials for their alleged negligence in allowing citizens to travel and assemble. Though the World Health Organization has praised the draconian measures, many high-ranking Ukrainian officials including the Prime Minister have condemned the fear mongering and accompanying government response.

              There is clearly a lot of uncertainty about the current situation in Ukraine, as evidenced by the contradictory news reports and official statements emanating from the country. But as the dust settles, the truth will hopefully rise to the surface. In the mean time, Ukrainian citizens should resist the tyrannical edicts being imposed upon them and demand that the presidential election be held as planned.
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                #8
                what makes it so bad is the bacteria that follows the virus, once infected with h1n1 any bacteria followed behind it, is devastating!!!! Trust me im a Microbiology major and pre dental... 1918 flu is very similar to h1n1 yet actual difference is that h1n1 is very mutable "alters or changes" very fast.. this is due to the genetic makeup of the actual virus... in summary, just as bad as 1918 but can be prevented... once you feel sick... load up with C, b12 and b6, sterilize and clean everything... bc if you catch the virus, bacteria thrive in our body and can manipulate and take advantage by growing so massive and creating more difficulties... how??? Antibodies and WBCs are soooo busy trying to fight the virus h1n1 bc it naturally is programmed to be more threatening bc it has never seen this b4 and while this is occuring the immune system is stuck having to choose between the two to fight.... virus first then bacteria second.... honestly there is a lot of controversy behind this notion or idea, but 90% of the people who died... died from swine flu with an addition of an infection " bacterial" by penetration to the heart and lung... hope this helps everyone... take it like you want to but I really hope everyone just washes their hands and covers their mouths when feeling ill. Clean all bed sheets and dont leave any driinks around for more than an hour if uncapped, if you have cuts... dont wash dishes with wash pad, if you do,, use gloves!!!! avoid scratching eyes as well.

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                  H1N1: WHAT THE WORLD IS DOING

                  United States

                  The H1N1 virus is widespread, with most illness seen in younger people. More than half of those admitted to hospitals are under 25 years old. The United States has four vaccine suppliers, but has been slow in receiving vaccine. And there has been controversy: Americans learned that employees of financial giants Goldman Sachs and Citigroup got the vaccine even as many community clinics had none.



                  Mexico

                  Mexico was the epicentre of the first outbreak about seven months ago. But when manufacturers moved to develop a vaccine, most of the vaccine was snapped up by wealthy countries, including the United States and Canada. Vaccine supplies are low, and officials plan to provide it to high-risk groups, including pregnant women, health-care workers and young children.



                  Britain

                  There are no pictures of long lineups, and no cries of injustice that the vaccine is going to the wealthy. Vaccine is given out mostly by invitation only to those at high-risk for complications. Britain's National Health Service sent letters inviting those who qualify to make an appointment and get their shots first.



                  China

                  H1N1 is on the rise in China, triggering an early start to the winter influenza season. The country is among more than 20 to have launched mass immunization campaigns against the virus. China has moved quickly to vaccinate the most vulnerable groups after being accused of failing to move swiftly enough to stop the 2003 outbreak of SARS.


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                      #11
                      Check this video out. The video consists of lots of good information.

                      http://vimeo.com/7298827

                      TERESA FORCADES, doctor in Public Health, reflects on the history, and gives scientific data, of A type flu and lists all the irregularities related to this subject.

                      She explains the consequences of the declaration of a PANDEMIC, the political consequences from this declaration and makes a proposal to keep calm. She calls for an urgent activation of all legal mechanism and the participation of all citizens in this matter.

                      Big thanks to Marta Cobos (gripeArtificial), Marina, Paula Hernandez and Amalia, whose help made it possible to publish this version with English subtitles.
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                        #12
                        interesting read.

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                          #13
                          H1N1 can lick my ballsack


                          Originally posted by Maple50175
                          Oh here we go again. Maples other half.

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                            #14
                            Bs.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ralphie View Post
                              Bs.
                              I wonder why? Did you take the vaccination shot(s)? There has already been a news announcement here in the Washington, DC area there will be a second vaccination shot.

                              Check this video out. The video consists of lots of good information.

                              http://vimeo.com/7298827

                              TERESA FORCADES, doctor in Public Health, reflects on the history, and gives scientific data, of A type flu and lists all the irregularities related to this subject.

                              She explains the consequences of the declaration of a PANDEMIC, the political consequences from this declaration and makes a proposal to keep calm. She calls for an urgent activation of all legal mechanism and the participation of all citizens in this matter.

                              Big thanks to Marta Cobos (gripeArtificial), Marina, Paula Hernandez and Amalia, whose help made it possible to publish this version with English subtitles.
                              Last edited by kamaccord; 11-14-2009, 09:34 AM.
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