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    Alright, some of my female friends seem to trust this friend of one of their brothers... Problem is that after talking to him for a few minutes I quickly realized he's a compulsive liar. And although I managed to fix one of their cars after it was absolutely totaled, they seem to think he knows every bit as much about cars as me on account of the fact that he knows how to change oil...

    But I digress, here's a list of things I could use help debunking. Maybe some backing from knowledgeable internet people will help? If you can chime in on any of these, you have my gratitude

    First claim: He has a 94-97 Accord. Non-vtec model. He claims it's 140 horsepower from the factory. To the best of my knowledge, the only non-vtec 4 cyl engine available for that chassis is the F22b2. Stock horsepower 130. Can people here chime in to agree that he's lying?

    Second: His car has 180 horsepower. Cause he added a K&N filter, changed out the intake tubing (not the manifold, just the tubing), then added new injectors and better spark plugs. Still stock exhaust. Can someone give me a more reasonable number for his horsepower? You know like 135-140? Agreements, yay or nay?

    Third: He has a 6000 dollar racing transmission in the car. Is this even possible? I have no idea where one can obtain a 6000 dollar transmission for an Accord. He claimed it was for a civic that bolted right up (but civic transmissions require adapters, correct?). Anyway, is there even a way to spend 6000 dollars on a transmission for the car and keep it daily drivable? I'm thinking for starters it'd have a 3 puck clutch and a flywheel so light you'd have to idle the thing at 3000 RPMs for it to not stall at takeoff.

    Fourth: When he was 16, apparently he bought a Pontiac Firebird for 500 bucks. With 580 horsepower. And it was fully street legal. Does anyone think this is bull? A car that cheap with that much horsepower to begin with is insane, the idea that a 16 year old could drive it is next to impossible.

    Fifth: He lost said Firebird when cops caught him doing 150 miles an hour in a 30 mile an hour zone. Forgetting the fact that a 16 year old would almost definitely lose control, crash, and die in the situation, if that were true, then once he got his license back, would he even be able to afford insurance? I'm thinking for a ticket that bad your insurance goes up to over 1000 bucks a month, especially when you're less than 25. So either he's lying, or he's driving without insurance, right? (He doesn't make enough to afford 1000+ bucks a month insurance)

    Sixth: So, apparently even though this was like 4 years ago, he can buy the car back from the police impound. For $12,000. This set off three huge red flags, since I know that
    A. Impound yards charge about 30 bucks a day to keep a car there. At 4 years, he'd be looking at over $40,000, not $12,000
    B. Police auction cars. They don't hold onto them unless they're being used as evidence. So within 4 years the car would be auctioned, not still available.
    C. If it's at a private impound yard rather than a police impound yard, it would have been parted out/sold/scrapped within 4 years since impound yards won't hold onto stuff that long.

    Seventh: He claims to know about cars. One of my roommates asked him what would cause the inside and outside edges of a tire to wear. He had to look it up. Now, on account of the fact that my mom could answer that question I'm thinking he must know next to nothing about cars.

    Eighth: When changing the oil on one of their cars (the neon I fixed after it was totaled) he determined that the reason the car shakes a bit when it takes a left curve is because it has mismatched stabilizer thingies on it. As soon as I heard that the one on the driver's side was blue and the one on the passenger's side was gray, I knew he meant sway bar endlinks. Now, I'm just thinking, shouldn't anybody who's good with cars know that? Also, isn't he retarded for thinking that the mismatched endlinks would cause that when they're A: Both specifically for the car and B: Both in good condition?

    Ninth: When one of the roommates asked what type of oil to put in their car, he was silent. I finally said it's probably 5w-30, virtually everything is, but double check your owner's manual to be sure that's right for upcoming winter weather, blah blah blah. As soon as I said 5w-30, he chimed in and said yah, 5w 30, all cars run 5w 30. He couldn't answer until I did since he didn't know

    Tenth: He took one look at this car
    http://www.carcraft.com/featuredvehi...gon/index.html
    And said he wouldn't be caught dead in it cause it's a station wagon. He doesn't, however, mind Pontiac Azteks or Sunfires... He thinks they're just fine but that wagons are ugly. Doesn't necessarily make him a liar, but does it at least make him a freak?

    So, if anyone can back me up on any of these, you're a pimp. Thanks

    #2
    Sit back and have a laugh. You will never win an argument against this person.

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      #3
      I skimmed....but I see you assume that cuz your 16 you cant drive....if that were the case why are there kids that age (and younger) driving in some of the major racing series....or at least in some of the developement series

      I think most of it is horseshit...but just cuz someones young doesnt necessarily mean they cant drive.

      and yes...just laugh and let him tell his stories....who cares if they believe him


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        #4
        I can't back you up with any technical data, but from the sound of it...this guy is a total d-bag with very little knowledge of anything automotive.

        If what you say is true, i would start asking really detailed questions in front of groups of people and see what he comes up with...

        Or ask a seemingly difficult question, to which you already know the answer...and wait for his BS reply. Then, depending on his answer, call him out on it. It's up to you whether or not you're a dick about it. lol

        $6k racing tranny?!? in his CD5?

        riiiiiight....


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          #5
          Sit back and have a laugh. You will never win an argument against this person.
          Hard to sit back and laugh, his actions pose a potential threat to me.

          Originally posted by King James View Post
          I skimmed....but I see you assume that cuz your 16 you cant drive....if that were the case why are there kids that age (and younger) driving in some of the major racing series....or at least in some of the developement series
          Do you see them successfully pulling that off on the street though? A race track is way different from trying to race like that on the road. Now, if you have tons of experience with offroad stuff then sure. But he doesn't. Basically, he apparently jumped into a car with very little experience and could fly around doing 150 on 30 mph roads.

          $6k racing tranny?!? in his CD5?
          Daily driving CD5. And not even a nice one, complete piece of crap. Nowhere near as good of condition as my rusty ass cb9.

          It's up to you whether or not you're a dick about it. lol
          If I have to be, I'll be a huge dick about it.I might not have mentioned it, but the girls are my roommates. Problem is, when someone says things like this they either think they know what they're talking about (aka they're stupid but not intentionally lying) or they're lying. Now, the motivation for the lie is what's interesting. Is he trying to impress me with his knowledge of cars? If so then he's treating me like an idiot thinking he can pull the wool over my eyes, therefore he's insulting me and I won't like him. However, what other reasons are there? He could be insecure and just wanna impress people. Or he could be trying to impress one of the girls on account of liking her.
          From this point on I must establish who is who with the girls. Their names are X, Y, and Z.
          Now, X is probably the most attractive of the 3, and she's 18. Engaged to Z's brother. Her fiancee is also the best friend of this lying dude, but he's currently deployed in the marines so he's never there. Now, if he likes her and is lying to impress her, and tries to break up the engagement all hell breaks loose. Z will be pissed that her brother's heart got broken. Since Z's mom is also staying with us (even though I never agreed to it and we could get kicked out of the apartment for it), that means more trouble and fighting and the place will become unlivable. That's a major concern for me.
          If he likes Y and tries to impress her I will simply snap his neck for moving in on my territory
          If he likes Z he's a chubby chaser.
          Until I know why he's lying, the safest course of action is to assume it's for one of the worst reasons, meaning I have to humiliate him and stop him if at all possible. And of course if he hurts any of the girls I'm gonna be blamed for not protecting them.

          Lastly, since he's having trouble with his parents, he offered to move in and take my place on the lease if I wanna get out. I like having the barter power of telling the girls "If I don't sign off on something, you can't afford to keep the apartment". So I wanna take that power away from him.

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            #6
            1-The b2 is rated @130hp 139tq to the crank so like 115whp give or take a few.
            2-With his AWSOME MODS(injectors are pointless on a stock engine) he might make 5whp more than stock hurray now its a race car!
            3-He has a transmission worth 4X what his car is worth an needs it for his 120whp.....because race car yo!
            4-Thats one hell of a deal.Someone needed drug money!
            5th-I did 140 in my 3rd gen when i was 16 it resulted in lots of tickets and money.No insurance wouldn't likely be 1k a month but it would be high.Once i got my licences back after 7 tickets it costed me 375bux a month for liability on a 97 mirage.
            6-Kid was droped on his head many times on purpose.
            7-Google is the shit thats why he has a 180whp stock accord or is that because F&F?
            8-He should have googled more an watched less F&F.
            9-5W 30 is for all cars ofcourse because race car!
            10-Aztecks an sunfires are another prime example of race cars.
            11th : Kick him straight in the nuts so he can never reproduce EVER

            02 Crv
            02 silverado Ex cab Z71, 2011 TRD 17" wheels, 245/80/17, ls1 cam, AFE intake, 3" catback, tuned by Larry at LSXperformance&pcm tuning driven daily.
            92 Acura Legend colbalt blue LS Coupe, custom intake, custom vibrant 2.5 cat back, led cluster and high beams, 2016 Coyote GT 18x8 wheels 235/40/18.
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              #7
              Ask him about muffler bearings or how much vtec fluid does a 92 dx d15b7(non vtec) use.

              02 Crv
              02 silverado Ex cab Z71, 2011 TRD 17" wheels, 245/80/17, ls1 cam, AFE intake, 3" catback, tuned by Larry at LSXperformance&pcm tuning driven daily.
              92 Acura Legend colbalt blue LS Coupe, custom intake, custom vibrant 2.5 cat back, led cluster and high beams, 2016 Coyote GT 18x8 wheels 235/40/18.
              Coming Soon Tein TSX coilovers.

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                #8
                vtec fluid? I thought blinkers needed fluid, vtec just needs special vtec lube?

                5th-I did 140 in my 3rd gen when i was 16 it resulted in lots of tickets and money.No insurance wouldn't likely be 1k a month but it would be high.Once i got my licences back after 7 tickets it costed me 375bux a month for liability on a 97 mirage.
                Yikes. If you don't mind me asking though, when was this? (I mean if you're 30 now, 375 bucks a month then would be a lot more now. Also, there are new laws about fast driving popping up all the time) And how long did it take you to get your license back?

                As far as the F&F stuff, I wasn't gonna mention it, but when a commercial for one came on the tv he said it looked like a good movie :/
                Last edited by Sarthos; 09-30-2011, 02:45 AM.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sarthos View Post
                  vtec fluid? I thought blinkers needed fluid, vtec just needs special vtec lube?



                  Yikes. If you don't mind me asking though, when was this? (I mean if you're 30 now, 375 bucks a month then would be a lot more now )

                  As far as the F&F stuff, I wasn't gonna mention it, but when a commercial for one came on the tv he said it looked like a good movie :/
                  I hope you are not serious about that vtec statement i made.Vtec fluid=Oil lol
                  I was 16 an now about to turn 23.

                  02 Crv
                  02 silverado Ex cab Z71, 2011 TRD 17" wheels, 245/80/17, ls1 cam, AFE intake, 3" catback, tuned by Larry at LSXperformance&pcm tuning driven daily.
                  92 Acura Legend colbalt blue LS Coupe, custom intake, custom vibrant 2.5 cat back, led cluster and high beams, 2016 Coyote GT 18x8 wheels 235/40/18.
                  Coming Soon Tein TSX coilovers.

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                    #10
                    I was joking, I just thought the convention was muffler bearings and blinker fluid. Had to change the vtec fluid to something else to make it not overlap

                    Eh, I knew it'd be high I was just hoping it'd be higher than 375 a month for the sake of the argument

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sarthos View Post
                      I was joking, I just thought the convention was muffler bearings and blinker fluid. Had to change the vtec fluid to something else to make it not overlap

                      Eh, I knew it'd be high I was just hoping it'd be higher than 375 a month for the sake of the argument
                      Thats a bit over 4k a year dude an that was on a 4cyl car with liability lmao expensive enough.

                      02 Crv
                      02 silverado Ex cab Z71, 2011 TRD 17" wheels, 245/80/17, ls1 cam, AFE intake, 3" catback, tuned by Larry at LSXperformance&pcm tuning driven daily.
                      92 Acura Legend colbalt blue LS Coupe, custom intake, custom vibrant 2.5 cat back, led cluster and high beams, 2016 Coyote GT 18x8 wheels 235/40/18.
                      Coming Soon Tein TSX coilovers.

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                        #12
                        No, i want it to be 5 grand a week in this state just for the sake of proving he's a liar, and getting him to GTFO. I mean, he's still better than the pedophile who almost got me killed that they insisted on being friends with and inviting over, but still not good.

                        And these girls say they don't trust anybody. That's the problem with too much tv, someone like Dr. House or the dude from Lie to Me or someone seems cool on tv, but they don't trust anybody, so the girls will go around saying it even though they are naive and trust EVERYBODY!

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                          #13
                          it sounds liek you know the same guy as i do?

                          he claims to have done 190 in his mustang 5.0 across the bridge, dyno'd his cd5 at 170 whp with an intake and a vtec controller.

                          as far as im concerned, he couldn't of done any of that because as long as he's had that accord, he never told me about dynoing the car.
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                            #14
                            Lmao ask him a few questions about rotary engines. I love to hear people agree with me that connecting rods in rotary engines are thin as paper. Then when they agree I tell them that rotary's have round pistons instead of the square ones you find in typical motors and they say "I know, isn't that weird?"

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                              #15
                              I'm just getting pissed off, my roommates are completely retarded, they refuse to believe me on any of this. Ready to just do something to get everyone evicted. Cause I'm the only one who has a place to stay if that happens.

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