for 25k what car would you get?

[phantomcb7]

i would get me one of these then put the rest in my bank account

[remix405]

my experience with the 5series was good never experienced any electrical issue... the m3 has 130k already and still good only issue i had was replacing my smg pump at 100k one thing has gone wrong in 130k to me thats preety good

Is your car turning milano pink yet? Sucks how
they did the single stage paint for red. Mine had the transmission grind, had to swap the transmission. I know about the earlier Hyundais and I'll agree to that. Guessing the 5 series is an older model because the earlier models had electrical issues, it is a hit or miss with them but their drivetrains are nearly bulletproof. A member (npor) I think that is his screen name and I forgot who else but he drives the 5 series wagon, they should know more about them. I don't discriminate against any brands, cause I know there is no perfect car. I am actually looking at an RL SH-AWD among others, so no Honda hate from me.

['93CB7Ex]

up for 7k what car would you get? i want something fast or boosted.

[scotty91]

evo 8

edit: i would build the accord f22 N/A.

['93CB7Ex]

its gotta be something different.

[scotty91]

then s2k or evo

[owequitit]

The 2nd gen G35x/G37x does the 1/4 in the low 14s/high 13s stock. Granted I know obv there's mroe to a car than straight line performance but it's not like a Foxbody vs a Rolls Royce for the same $$$. Plus you have a heavy Honda bias so recommending an RL out of all the available used cars under 25K seems a bit salesmany. It's a nice car, but there are a lot of nice cars in that range.

In any case I doubt the OP will be making any car purchases soon so it's of little consequence.

I don't have nearly the Honda bias you think I do, and that is OK coming from you, because you are heavily Nissan biased. The G35 and G37 have NVH issues that should not exist at their price point, period.

As for my recommendation on the RL, it has less to do with my "Honda bias" than it does the fact that it is a $50-55K car that can be had for $25K or less in pristine used condition because the market didn't accept it.

You seem to buy into the internet illusion (like you usually do) that because it isn't popular it is somehow some peice of crap. It was simply too small for the market. It was simply a suggestion since they are REALLY well built and high quality cars, with a lot of features and other stuff for the money that you can't get at the price point in any other model unless you go much higher mileage/older.

Also, sorry, but high 14's is more than enough power for ANY real world driving, and the RL is sluggish off the line, but moves nicely once you get it wound up.

[owequitit]

There are better Hondas than the RL for the $$$ IMO... TL Type S, Accord V6-6, yadda yadda. Plus Infinitis aren't exactly German reliability wise.

Depends what you want. It is quite clear you haven't even touched a new RL, because if you had, you would know that it has a lot of benefits over those cars you listed.

Actually Ford, GM and Hyundai are pretty reliable these days. IT's not the 1980s

No offense, but other than improving scores on INITIAL QUALITY (90 days), they have not generated any results that have said they have passed anyone. Don't buy the media hype (yeah right). There are no statistics that bear out even equal long term quality yet, let alone superior. But shit, that is me living in reality again.

What about them? I have personal ownership experience with 2 brand listed and they never gave me any issues. Times are changing, we're not in the 90's anymore...

How about the leaky drain tubes that keeps the spare tire area wet, or cam seal leaks due to the plastic plug, the power antenna, the inferior stock radiator, transmission grinds, ABS sensor that needs cleaning once in a while, hatch hydraulics, heat shield rattles, rusts on the rear quarter panels, sunroof skippings, misaligned bumper covers, milano pinks. Sound familiar?

But at what age are those happening. And how many Fords from the same time frame do you see running around problem free these days? Pretty sure most of them have been, or are in the process of being junked. Every car has problems eventually. Honda holds them off longer than most.

Focus ST, Mustang, etc, def lookin better for enthusiast than some other brands.....

The Focus ST isn't even out yet... The Fiesta and Cruze looked like better cars than some other brands, but oh wait...

[rexload]

up for 7k what car would you get? i want something fast or boosted.

-Mustang with gears and tune
-Camaro
-LT1 Vette
-V8 RX7
-Fully built turbo 90s Honda
EDIT: I should say semi-built turbo Honda. It CAN be fully built for 7K but doing all work yourself.

[gloryaccordy]

Hey owe

Never said the RL was a bad car

Just that for someone coming from a CB & prioritizing performance, there are better picks than the RL

Why that angers you or prompts you to feel the need to assert your credibility over others IDK

Anyway for 7K, thats a tough range right now. Borderline

- High mileage S2K
- RSX
- Older Maxima

Can't think of anything else

[owequitit]

Hey owe

Never said the RL was a bad car

Just that for someone coming from a CB & prioritizing performance, there are better picks than the RL

Why that angers you or prompts you to feel the need to assert your credibility over others IDK

Anyway for 7K, thats a tough range right now. Borderline

- High mileage S2K
- RSX
- Older Maxima

Can't think of anything else

Keep in mind he is going from something that did 0-60 in 10 seconds and pulled a 17 second quarter mile down into the 14's. That is a HUGE performance increase, and when I made my original post, he hadn't declared he wanted performance.

However, I still assert that much below 14's you are wasting your time in about 98% of all public road driving.

To each his own, it was simply a car I suggest he look at (before he said pure performance) because it is well built, reliable and you get a shit ton of car for the price.

[gloryaccordy]

Its not just the raw standing stop acceleration performance, but also the low end + midrange response, which the 2WD 6 spd G35/TL/AV6-6 easily have over the heavy auto AWD RL

It's enjoyable

[owequitit]

Its not just the raw standing stop acceleration performance, but also the low end + midrange response, which the 2WD 6 spd G35/TL/AV6-6 easily have over the heavy auto AWD RL

It's enjoyable

Glory, you are talking to me like I am an idiot, when I probably have more seat time by several orders of magnitude in J series cars than you. There is also something to be said about thrilling top end, and the G35 just doesn't have it. Even the VQ35HR is not smooth up there.

First gen, the interior is trash for the money. 2nd gen was much better all around, but is going to cost a lot more and still doesn't compare to the luxury of the RL. You seem to have the internet disease of believing there is no difference between an RL and an Accord. But it wouldn't be the first time.

Also, I am not so sure you have spent that much time driving an actual Accord V6. Even the 6MT is not overwhelming off the line, and even with the advantage of MT, I am pretty sure the extra 60 lb-ft of the RL and the additional torque multiplication of the auto tranny and AWD traction count for something as well.

Which goes right back to my original beef with you. You are CLEARLY speaking out of your rear tailpipe as you CLEARLY have never driven an RL, as it is on par with an Accord V6 off the line. It is like ALL J series. It feels relatively weak down low because the torque curve never tapers off up top. Yes, it is slower than a G35 manual. Never disputed that. However, it offers a ton of other advantages in return, none of which you are able to rationalize.

Yeah, it is heavier, but it has a shit ton more torque and top end power too. Power to weight ratio, performance, acceleration are all about the same. The Accord 6 speed is not going to put more than a fraction of a car length on the RL, and considering the extra feature content, WAAAY nicer interior and build quality, quieter performance and AWD traction, it is a trade. The RL also will outrun an Accord in the twisties. You keep talking about "thrilling off the line and midrange," and then referring to the Accord. I have driven every V6 model Accord ever made and know exactly how they are off the line. You then go onto claim how much better that is when it is actually about the SAME, so I am not sure what you are trying to tell me.

I also CLEARLY stated in my last post that I suggested it PRIOR to him mentioned wanting luxury, and coincidentally also prior to him saying $7k instead of $25K. So perhaps YOU could explain to me what YOUR beef is?

[f22a1accord]

i would put a down payment on the new ford raptor with the biggest smile on my face, i seen it on the new top gear. this thing stock from ford was doin 80+ through the desert and it looked like the driver was riding in a caddy, 475hp stock. This one is just has a few extra parts

The VelociRaptor 600 Upgrade Includes:

• HPE 6.2L Twin Turbo System
• Twin Ball Bearing Turbochargers
• Dual Air-to-Air Front Mounted Intercoolers
• Stainless Steel Turbo Exhaust
• Dual 44 mm Wastegates
• Dual Blow-Off Valves
• Electronic Boost Controller
• Polished Inlet Piping
• Fuel System & Injector Upgrade
• HPE Engine Management Calibration
• Professional Installation
• All Necessary Gaskets & Fluids
• Chassis Dyno Tuning & Road Testing
• Serial Numbered Dash & Engine Plaques
• Hennessey & VelociRaptor Exterior Badging
• 1 Year / 12,000 Mile Warranty

kinda sucks 25k would only put you almost halfway to owning it

[rexload]

up for 7k what car would you get? i want something fast or boosted.

Also, my buddy picked up an '03 Accord V6 MT with around 80K miles for $7,500. So if you want something nice and reliable to drive that also has reasonable performance, that is probably one of the best options for ~7K.
But if you just want as much performance as you cant get with 7K, see my previous post lol