My car came with seemingly brand new little Kicker's all around, but they didnt sound right and would fade in and out on certain speakers. I feel like it is in the wiring and needs to be re-wired. What connectors do I need, or can I use straight up regular speaker wire all around?
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'92 EX 5-spd Sedan - Odometer reads 215k with 195k on my JDM SOHC F20A.
'92 DX 5-spd Coupe - Had bad times soon after buying with brakes and water pump (only paid 700 tho), Ran awesome then water pump went bad! F22A1
Needs: Water Pump and Timing belt (have parts) Front control arms at 200k, e-brake adjustment, mad body work, drop.
Bought from: Slick, STL_92_Accord, TASPROTags: None
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I would fade and balance each speaker individually to figure out which ones sound bad. Then inspect each speaker that sounds messed up. Make sure the polarity is right for each. If that don't solve the problem you will have to pull the H/U out and inspect the wires. Rewiring everything should be your last option.
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i agree rewiring is time consuming! I had some kicker 6.5 and one of them just stopped working. The tweeter worked only. I am never kicker speakers again, other than subs. I love there subs!Originally posted by onelifetwodream View PostI would fade and balance each speaker individually to figure out which ones sound bad. Then inspect each speaker that sounds messed up. Make sure the polarity is right for each. If that don't solve the problem you will have to pull the H/U out and inspect the wires. Rewiring everything should be your last option.
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O.K. good advice, thanks!
'92 EX 5-spd Sedan - Odometer reads 215k with 195k on my JDM SOHC F20A.
'92 DX 5-spd Coupe - Had bad times soon after buying with brakes and water pump (only paid 700 tho), Ran awesome then water pump went bad! F22A1
Needs: Water Pump and Timing belt (have parts) Front control arms at 200k, e-brake adjustment, mad body work, drop.
Bought from: Slick, STL_92_Accord, TASPRO
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Can't blow speakers with too little power.Originally posted by wherm View Postyeah, kicker speakers can be real fussy about power. Too much, you'll blow them. Not enough, you'll blow them. Above are good suggestions, good luck!
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you can blow underpowered speakers,Originally posted by sonikaccord View PostCan't blow speakers with too little power.
you could blow speakers by underpowering them,the voice coil will overheat,causing it go, heres a more tchnical explanation,
When an underpowered amplifier "clips" or runs out of steam and the power supply can no longer provide enough current to the output tubes or transistors, or when those devices reach their maximum output voltage, the signal gets clipped. The waveform of the output then contains a huge amount of DC voltage, sometimes at very high voltage levels relative to the levels seen when the signal is behaving itself as AC.
This DC voltage (and the other trash thrown out by the clipping devices) is what does the damage.
The voice coil of a speaker is actually a motor. When it sees DC current, the motion of the voice coil stops, or "stalls". When this happens, instead of acting as an inductor, the voice coil basically becomes a piece of wire, and the amplifier sees that piece of wire as a dead short. This causes a spiral of death. The short demands more current from the amp, which it can't deliver, and it clips even harder. Meanwhile the voicecoil is heating up from the increased current, and the lack of any cooling fanning motion, and poof - puff of smoke, and no more voice coil. Even a microscopic burn can sometimes kill a voice coil.
This is why, when used and applied properly, it is always better to have more amplifier than needed. Clipping is much more destructive than a small amount of overpowering.
One last note - loud is not always better, but the only way to get really loud is to have a larger driver, larger box or more boxes. A bookshelf teensy driver and billion watt amp is never going to push the air mass that a big box and an appropriate amp will move.
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Thank you. Obviously some people here don't understand how audio works.Originally posted by doughboy415 View Postyou can blow underpowered speakers,
you could blow speakers by underpowering them,the voice coil will overheat,causing it go, heres a more tchnical explanation,
When an underpowered amplifier "clips" or runs out of steam and the power supply can no longer provide enough current to the output tubes or transistors, or when those devices reach their maximum output voltage, the signal gets clipped. The waveform of the output then contains a huge amount of DC voltage, sometimes at very high voltage levels relative to the levels seen when the signal is behaving itself as AC.
This DC voltage (and the other trash thrown out by the clipping devices) is what does the damage.
The voice coil of a speaker is actually a motor. When it sees DC current, the motion of the voice coil stops, or "stalls". When this happens, instead of acting as an inductor, the voice coil basically becomes a piece of wire, and the amplifier sees that piece of wire as a dead short. This causes a spiral of death. The short demands more current from the amp, which it can't deliver, and it clips even harder. Meanwhile the voicecoil is heating up from the increased current, and the lack of any cooling fanning motion, and poof - puff of smoke, and no more voice coil. Even a microscopic burn can sometimes kill a voice coil.
This is why, when used and applied properly, it is always better to have more amplifier than needed. Clipping is much more destructive than a small amount of overpowering.
One last note - loud is not always better, but the only way to get really loud is to have a larger driver, larger box or more boxes. A bookshelf teensy driver and billion watt amp is never going to push the air mass that a big box and an appropriate amp will move.
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Just wondering...How does me having nine years professional car audio/video experience going through the beginner audio threads to help people out have anything to do with whoring???Originally posted by loud92CB7db18 View Postactually u could blow them by clipping but ...... we wont go into that because that guy was just whoring anyway
Anyway, yes it has everything to do with clipping.
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i just saw u had posted is old ass threads and just kinda went by that. my bad and no offense 9 years is a good bit of time but that doesnt make ya top dog. but it does make u a helpful person to have around. soo what trim cb do u have?? and where did u spend your blessed years ?Originally posted by wherm View PostJust wondering...How does me having nine years professional car audio/video experience going through the beginner audio threads to help people out have anything to do with whoring???
Anyway, yes it has everything to do with clipping.
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I don't mean to take away from this thread...but anyway, I was lead installer for Circuit City Roadshop for 7 years, did a lot of custom work and all kinds of different installs. I've been in the auto body industry for the last three, and I have some friends with their own audio shops who sublet work out to me when they get busy.Originally posted by loud92CB7db18 View Posti just saw u had posted is old ass threads and just kinda went by that. my bad and no offense 9 years is a good bit of time but that doesnt make ya top dog. but it does make u a helpful person to have around. soo what trim cb do u have?? and where did u spend your blessed years ?
I drive a 93 lx coupe, all sorts of mods, the latest being the eyelids and grill shown in the pic below. I'm an active member on accordinglydone.com, build thread: http://www.accordinglydone.com/forum...ad.php?t=15343Last edited by wherm; 12-06-2008, 01:01 AM.
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Originally posted by wherm View PostI don't mean to take away from this thread...but anyway, I was lead installer for Circuit City Roadshop for 7 years, did a lot of custom work and all kinds of different installs. I've been in the auto body industry for the last three, and I have some friends with their own audio shops who sublet work out to me when they get busy.
I drive a 93 lx coupe, all sorts of mods, the latest being the eyelids and grill shown in the pic below. I'm an active member on accordinglydone.com, build thread: http://www.accordinglydone.com/forum...ad.php?t=15343

infinty kappa speakers are the best for the cost. i have them all around and
. MBQuart is better but costs way more. you might just try getting a four channel amp for the speakers you have. If you do 4ch Amp, rewiring to a bigger gauge is necessary though. all up to how much work you want to put in. better quality speaker swaps would be a the quickest route.
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