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a puddle killed my engine??
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Originally posted by TravRMKI would pull all the spark plugs out, and see if you can turn it over by hand. If you can't, there is a good chance that a rod is bent or broken. If it turns over easily with the plugs still out, turn it over with the starter for a bit, should spray all the water out the spark plug holes.
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Yes crank it over with the starter. But since you say it doesn't crank does it have power? (are the headlights bright?)
does the starter click or grind?
Out of curiosity what is your oil level at? If the cyls did fill with water then it would seep down the rings and be in the oil thus resulting in higher then normal oil level.
Take the plugs out and get a ratchet and try and turn the motor over by hand.
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Originally posted by loudlowaccordcan anybody else answer that for me ?? plzzz
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Originally posted by Opticonhe means crank it with the key, if its not doing anything that means its seized, if you dont have any marvel oil, use like a really thin oil and try to work it free turning it by hand. "make sure all the water is out or itll make it more difficult
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Get a new engine. If you hydrolocked, it's done. It's not "wet". It doesn't need to have the water sucked out. What happened to that engine is about the same as sucking up a brick. It won't crank because your internals look as if a bomb went off in there.
Do this. Fill your bathtub with water. Kneel down next to the tub. Raise your arm over your head, and bring your hand down into that water with all your strength. Stings, right? The harder it hits, the harder the water seems. Bellyflop off a bridge, and hitting water is like hitting cement. And this is when the water can be displaced... as in, it'll splash away from the impact.
Now, put that in the context of your engine. Rather than the speed of your arm from over your head, you have pistons going up and down at least 700-1000 times per minute... probably a lot more if you were driving. That means your pistons were probably going up and down about 40 times a second. That is VERY fast.
Unlike your tub, where the water can splash, the water you sucked into your combustion chambers has nowhere to go. The pistons try to compress it. The combustion chamber and the action of the piston is designed to take air and a vaporized fuel mixture that takes up this much space |________| and squish it down to take up this much space |_|. It can do that to gas. Liquid is like compressing a brick.
Also take into account the significant cooling ability of water. In that incredibly hot combustion chamber, the instant cooling of the internals will cause them to become even more brittle. Add that to the pressure of trying to compress the water, and you just destroyed the entire engine.
Pull it out. I bet you'll find a hole in the block. Pull the head to find bent valves, cracked pistons, and who knows what other sorts of carnage.
Hydrolock is one of the few things that cannot be fixed.
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Originally posted by deevergoteGet a new engine. If you hydrolocked, it's done. It's not "wet". It doesn't need to have the water sucked out. What happened to that engine is about the same as sucking up a brick. It won't crank because your internals look as if a bomb went off in there.
Do this. Fill your bathtub with water. Kneel down next to the tub. Raise your arm over your head, and bring your hand down into that water with all your strength. Stings, right? The harder it hits, the harder the water seems. Bellyflop off a bridge, and hitting water is like hitting cement. And this is when the water can be displaced... as in, it'll splash away from the impact.
Now, put that in the context of your engine. Rather than the speed of your arm from over your head, you have pistons going up and down at least 700-1000 times per minute... probably a lot more if you were driving. That means your pistons were probably going up and down about 40 times a second. That is VERY fast.
Unlike your tub, where the water can splash, the water you sucked into your combustion chambers has nowhere to go. The pistons try to compress it. The combustion chamber and the action of the piston is designed to take air and a vaporized fuel mixture that takes up this much space |________| and squish it down to take up this much space |_|. It can do that to gas. Liquid is like compressing a brick.
Also take into account the significant cooling ability of water. In that incredibly hot combustion chamber, the instant cooling of the internals will cause them to become even more brittle. Add that to the pressure of trying to compress the water, and you just destroyed the entire engine.
Pull it out. I bet you'll find a hole in the block. Pull the head to find bent valves, cracked pistons, and who knows what other sorts of carnage.
Hydrolock is one of the few things that cannot be fixed.
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If you think you can save it, go ahead. You say I brought your hopes down. I say I just saved you from wasting a day. If you'd rather follow the advice of people that don't know what they're talking about, go ahead. I won't stop you.
If you want to work on your car today, go get an engine hoist. Go get another engine... and install it.
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This thread is funny..
"just suck the water out! you'll be fine!"
You know, the bent rods wont affect anything.
Take it from someone who has been through this, if you sucked up enough water to stop the engine, there is a good chance at least 1 of your rods now looks like a bananna. I can show you a picture if you need proof.
Talk to your insurance company. When I hydrolocked they covered it in Full under comprehensive. I was able to score a new TypeR engine for my teggie with the money they gave me.
Keep in mind though that my car was a 2001, and was about $500.00 away from being "totaled", so since you're car is much older, they probably wont touch it.
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Most people don't put full coverage on a 15-18 year old "beater", unfortunately. I don't even have it on mine. Of course, I live in NJ, where insurance is insane... when it's cheaper elsewhere, maybe people do. Of course, an F22A is cheaper than most insurance deductibles anyway.
If the starter makes a noise and the motor won't crank, it's toast.
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Water is an incompressible liquid.
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