Bisimoto Header & Turbo System???

[93HONDAEX]

I was looking online on where a turbo system connects to on the engine and it looks as if it combines with the header. So my question is, if I wanted to get a custom made turbo system for my 93 Honda Accord Ex would I still want to get the Bisimoto Header that they are offering or would i need a different header?

[fatboy1185]

Turbo manifold is what you're looking for.

[Gold DA9]

you could still get the bisi header and make a custom rear mount turbo setup. Mount the turbo under the rear of the car near the back bumper.

Otherwise you want to buy a turbo manifold like he said above.

[deevergote]

The Bisimoto header is for NA performance only.


If you are asking this question, you need to learn a LOT more before you can even consider going turbo. Turbo takes a good deal of knowledge, or you can destroy your engine.

Get a book called "Maximum Boost" by Corky Bell. Read it cover to cover. Then you'll be ready to consider turbo. Personally, I'd only go turbo on a project car, not my daily driver.

[kantkillkeenan]

agreed

ill sell u a turbo tho..lol

[deevergote]

In the Beginner Forums? Might be a good idea to delete any mention of selling anything... if I have to, a ban goes along with it.

[19dabeast85]

Actually deev, I disagree somewhat. The Bisi header is not intended, of course, for a TRADITIONAL turbo setup. There are companies now that make kits, mainly for american muscle and truck applications, that are "remote mount". They mount where the muffler normally sits or really anywhere under the vehicle that has enough room. The charge piping is long enough going back up to the engine that airflow under the car makes a front mount intercooler unneeded so less weight and really the total length of the charge pipe is no more than going through a huge front-mount system, so turbo lag isn't a problem.

I think the bisi header feeding into 2.5" piping feeding this kind of turbo setup would make awesome power and be a great setup.

[93HONDAEX]

Deevergote, in your post-reply you mentioned that you "personally would go turbo on a project car," however I'm curious to know why? What would be the negatives to having turbo on a daily driver Accord? I found the recommended text "Maximum Boost" and am going to purchase it from Amazon (unless i can find it online). Are there any other book you recommend? Everyone keeps telling me to do RESEARCH and I am. lol. It's just that when I'm readin one thing/topic I dont understand some of the basics and decide to ask it through this forum. A lot of guys/gals on here have been very helpful in giving me ideas on what to research/study. I long to have the knowledge that u (deevergote) and others have into fixing up CB7's but right now I'm not even a beginner. I looked on the net for Turbo Manifolds and I cannot find any for my Accord so I'm assuming that I'd have to get that specailly made, right? If so, would bisimoto make those custom parts? Well I need to stop writing on these forums and read as much as I can about my car and how to modify it. I apologize to anyone who has wasted their time reading my "novice" posts. Thanks everyone.

[19dabeast85]

I looked on the net for Turbo Manifolds and I cannot find any for my Accord so I'm assuming that I'd have to get that specailly made, right? If so, would bisimoto make those custom parts? Well I need to stop writing on these forums and read as much as I can about my car and how to modify it. I apologize to anyone who has wasted their time reading my "novice" posts. Thanks everyone.

I'll give you a head start: Search the forced induction section here for "dsm manifold" Easiest way to build a simple DD turbo setup.

[deevergote]

Actually deev, I disagree somewhat. The Bisi header is not intended, of course, for a TRADITIONAL turbo setup. There are companies now that make kits, mainly for american muscle and truck applications, that are "remote mount". They mount where the muffler normally sits or really anywhere under the vehicle that has enough room. The charge piping is long enough going back up to the engine that airflow under the car makes a front mount intercooler unneeded so less weight and really the total length of the charge pipe is no more than going through a huge front-mount system, so turbo lag isn't a problem.

I think the bisi header feeding into 2.5" piping feeding this kind of turbo setup would make awesome power and be a great setup.

Yeah, you can slap a flange on your stock manifold and run a turbo that way as well. In fact, I'd sooner do that than put a turbo on a Bisimoto header.

Not that I don't think it'd make power... but the Bisimoto header is intended to flow efficiently and smoothly throughout, making for a non-turbulent flow through the collector and out the exhaust. Put a major restriction after that collector, and you're defeating the entire purpose of that expensive header. It may work. It may work very well... but I really wouldn't see the point.

I believe Bisi said he will eventually make turbo manifolds.

Deevergote, in your post-reply you mentioned that you "personally would go turbo on a project car," however I'm curious to know why? What would be the negatives to having turbo on a daily driver Accord? I found the recommended text "Maximum Boost" and am going to purchase it from Amazon (unless i can find it online). Are there any other book you recommend? Everyone keeps telling me to do RESEARCH and I am. lol. It's just that when I'm readin one thing/topic I dont understand some of the basics and decide to ask it through this forum. A lot of guys/gals on here have been very helpful in giving me ideas on what to research/study. I long to have the knowledge that u (deevergote) and others have into fixing up CB7's but right now I'm not even a beginner. I looked on the net for Turbo Manifolds and I cannot find any for my Accord so I'm assuming that I'd have to get that specailly made, right? If so, would bisimoto make those custom parts? Well I need to stop writing on these forums and read as much as I can about my car and how to modify it. I apologize to anyone who has wasted their time reading my "novice" posts. Thanks everyone.

I would also suggest Honda/Acura Engine Performance by Mike Kojima. A lot of the info presented is dated, and some of it is actually completely false... but for the most part, it's a very useful book. A ton of information presented in a very easy to understand manner. I got my start on that book. I still read through it from time to time. The turbo section is fantastic.

As far as going turbo on your daily driver... The F22A was not made for turbo. On top of that, it's 16-20 years old. Turbo creates a lot of heat (especially if you go cheap and get a small turbo). It produces a good deal of stress that an old engine may not like. MOST people that put a turbo on their stock engines end up blowing them up sooner or later. If you have another car, then that's not so bad. If it's your only means of transportation, then it could be a problem! If you can't ride your Huffy to work, don't boost your only car!

To do a turbo system RIGHT, you really need to put in a lot of time and money. I wanted to go turbo on my H22 a few years back, and after I added up everything I'd need to really do it right (re-sleeving the cylinder bores, new pistons and rods, head work, all the proper turbo components, dyno tuning...) I hit the $10,000 mark. Needless to say... I didn't go turbo!

A mild non-turbo build is safer and easier than a cheap turbo setup. If you want to make impressive power either way, it's going to cost you many times what your car is worth.

[Granite CB7]

I think it's def. possible to adapt the Bisimoto header into a turbo manifold, BUT I will say this; The tubing on the header is actually quite thin, bracing/gusseting would have to be done to not stress the header itself. This even has to be done on turbo manifolds that are prone to stress and thus cracking.