i just found out that bisimoto will not be making his steel rods for the f22 so this puts my build on hold...i was wondering if stock rods could stand up to 200whp with arp bolts?
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for sure . they can hold it .
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another option is having your stock rods shot peened which increases strength. The stock rods should be able to hand up to 300hp and the f22 usually fails not because of the rods but because of the pistons. The ring lands are weak and are usually the first to go.
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It depends if the power goals are with turbo, or without.
200hp with turbo, the stock rods will be fine. As said above, the ringlands will be the weak spot here.
200hp N/A, you should at the very least upgrade the rod bolts with ARP bolts, as you mentioned. That won't guarantee that it won't break, but it'll at least increase the chances of survival. A high-revving N/A motor puts the rods through hell!
There are other sources for rods, I'm sure. Bisimoto has the best F22 parts around, but if you do your research, you could find something else. I think Probe made F22 rods... not sure if they still do. Not top quality, but for 200hp they should be plenty strong enough as long as you're not planning to rev to 9k like crazy.
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I dont think that I will be revving to 9k....but the motor will be n/a. I will do more research on where I can find rods, but if nothing comes up in a good price range then stock rods it is!Comment
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Just be careful. If you snap a rod, you could throw a piston into the head. If you put work into the head, you're putting that investment at risk. Might be best to just save up for some quality aftermarket rods, even if they're pricey!
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Keep in mind there are other options for aftermarket rods, such as Crower and RaceEng. They are more expensive however, but will give you the same piece of mind as Bisimoto, possibly even more. Increasing your budget by an extra 450 or so shouldn't be too much, at the most maybe push you back by about 3-6 months. But I could be assuming too much. Also keep in mind that H23 and B20A5 rods work as well should you find some.'94 JDM H22A: 178whp 146wtq
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Actually thanks to hondafan81 he gave me the website for the probe rods, and they are about 20 bucks cheaper than bisi's rods. THANKS MAN!Comment
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Damn
well with my luck probe discontiued their rods....soo., i happened to look on summitracing.com and found carrillo rods for the h23a1, i just wanted to know if these would work fine or not. heres the link: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CNN-HNH2365581H0/
edit: just found the specs on the stock rods and the ones from probe to match to the carrillo rods and the measurements match up.Last edited by mikecb7LX92; 02-11-2011, 03:47 PM.Comment
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$303 a peice.... same rods i have in my motor, H23 rods in f22 block
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just replace the rod bolts with arp's and call it a dayComment
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I just don't trust the stock rods all like that man....I been putting a lot of money in it just for a rod to go thru the block, by the way lodollar how are they holding up for you?Comment
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The stock rods are probably made better than half the aftermarket stuff out there... certainly better than any aftermarket that is going to work with OEM pistons.
People always assume that if it's a "stock" part that it has to be weak and crappy. That's very rarely the case!
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That's the thing tho deev they aren't for oem pistons, I got 12:1 bisi pistonsComment
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