ram air question

[islandhopper]

...i know my car will pass the 130 mark with no problem. ive had it there a few times..

Are your wheels and tires OE spec? That is crucial to give a correct speed reading.

...i will get pix as soon as i can of it and post them...
... i understand also where it would need solid proof. i will try to provide as much as possible...

Thankyou.

...i own a motorcycle shop here when i live and also dragrace one as well. i have been working on cars and bikes for 15 or so years.

Kool story brah..

[xkjnboix]

ive run a bumper scoop to my SRI for years. as far as performance gains not really different than anyother SRI. as far as highway driving or driving above 40mph i gain all of the benefits of a CAI. my direct air intake on the highway keeps my temp needle slightly above the cold mark and usually highest it goes is 1/4 when its normally at 1/2. i love it and so does my engine and gas mileage. i made a road trip to pick up my c/f hood to florida a few years back and got 450-500miles every tank of gas with this baby no exaggeration.

[Turbocutlass]

[QUOTE=CBsevenTUNER;2845924]Are your wheels and tires OE spec? That is crucial to give a correct speed reading.

No problem. and yes they are stock wheels and same size tires. seen in my signature..

[Turbocutlass]

ive run a bumper scoop to my SRI for years. as far as performance gains not really different than anyother SRI. as far as highway driving or driving above 40mph i gain all of the benefits of a CAI. my direct air intake on the highway keeps my temp needle slightly above the cold mark and usually highest it goes is 1/4 when its normally at 1/2. i love it and so does my engine and gas mileage. i made a road trip to pick up my c/f hood to florida a few years back and got 450-500miles every tank of gas with this baby no exaggeration.

i fully agree... but for me ive noticed that its not really a certain speed its the rpm band i notice it in.. however yes above 30 - 40 mph is where it becomes highly noticeable.. and i personally think that it has more benefit then a cold air set up because the higher in rpms the more the motor has to labor to pull the air from down there, where with this set up it doesn't have to pull it, its being forced in thus making the motor work ALOT less for more air...

[islandhopper]

ive run a bumper scoop to my SRI for years...

Can i see?

...450-500miles every tank of gas with this baby no exaggeration.

Im getting that now with just a SRI. My route to work is 80% highway.

Are your wheels and tires OE spec? That is crucial to give a correct speed reading.

..yes they are stock wheels and same size tires. seen in my signature..

I see your sig, but your tire diameter is not visible..

[Turbocutlass]

Im getting that now with just a SRI. My route to work is 80% highway.



I see your sig, but your tire diameter is not visible..

lol this is true

[CBro7]

ive run a bumper scoop to my SRI for years. as far as performance gains not really different than anyother SRI. as far as highway driving or driving above 40mph i gain all of the benefits of a CAI. my direct air intake on the highway keeps my temp needle slightly above the cold mark and usually highest it goes is 1/4 when its normally at 1/2. i love it and so does my engine and gas mileage. i made a road trip to pick up my c/f hood to florida a few years back and got 450-500miles every tank of gas with this baby no exaggeration.

Worth the money? I've wanted something sort of like a cross between a CAI and SRI for a while now.

[deevergote]

"it works" does nothing to convince me otherwise. Show me proof. Show me numbers. Butt-dyno readings don't say anything.

[Nurega]

...because the higher in rpms the more the motor has to labor to pull the air from down there, where with this set up it doesn't have to pull it, its being forced in thus making the motor work ALOT less for more air...

Wrong. The motor will have to work much harder to get air unless the opening and tube is properly engineered.

Even if the velocity of the air is higher when entering the intake, there will be less of it actually moving through the pipe compared with a standard setup.
Air will choose the path of least resistance when faced with the blockade that is a car. Instead of entering the small turn-signal opening, air will find it easier to travel up and around the car. Thus, only with a large, aerodynamically-designed intake opening will you see a true ram-air effect. And even this - only at high speeds.

I really don't want to present a lesson in fluid dynamics on this topic again, so please: do the stick-your-head-out-the-window experiment that Deevergote mentioned and see for yourself.

[turboHLS30]

The butt-dyno isn't always efficient. Usually it's all in your head for little things like SRI's, and CAI's. Routing more ait to it won't do anything because it will only take what it needs. Unless the incoming air is positive, such as in a turbo/supercharger application.

[Noridetoolow]

ive run a bumper scoop to my SRI for years. as far as performance gains not really different than anyother SRI. as far as highway driving or driving above 40mph i gain all of the benefits of a CAI. my direct air intake on the highway keeps my temp needle slightly above the cold mark and usually highest it goes is 1/4 when its normally at 1/2. i love it and so does my engine and gas mileage. i made a road trip to pick up my c/f hood to florida a few years back and got 450-500miles every tank of gas with this baby no exaggeration.

I am on my 9th or 10th...maybe 11th Honda\Acura....cant remember exactly lol and one thing I have noticed consistent from my 88 EF DX hatch to my 95 GSR is that Honda's will reach a steady temp and stay there. About 1/3 up the temp gauge....maybe a lil higher but DEF under the half mark by a decent amount and it should never deviate. If it EVER gets higher then that mark I start to wonder what is wrong. And I live in GA, our temps right now are 100+ each day and in town or on the highway, with or without A/C blowing there is no deviance and there should not be. Honda's have the most consistent cooling system of any make of car I have ever owned. If your usually at half while in town....that would make me think something was wrong. Sounds like its cooling but not at its best\most efficient.

And to just add a tiny bit more....in the coldest of winter, it hits and maintains that same mark or VERY close to it.

[ssondubs]

Stick your head out the window like I said in my first reply... that will give you a much more accurate idea of how this will work.

My head is round so air would have to go around it but an air scoop would be more like a funnel so air is forced to go through it would it not?

[islandhopper]

My head is round so air would have to go around it but an air scoop would be more like a funnel so air is forced to go through it would it not?

Did you read all the replies in this thread? if you had i don't believe you would have asked this question. Doing more research on fluid dynamics might help as well..

[turboHLS30]

Just because it's like a "funnel" doesn't mean it will.

[deevergote]

A properly designed scoop that really does manage to collect rushing air can be useful. However, most scoops are used for cooling, such as brake ducts, or the scoop on a WRX/STi, which is driving air through the top-mount intercooler.

An intake with a functional scoop would only be working at optimal efficiency at a very narrow point as well. When there isn't enough air flowing in, it won't be any different than a regular ambient-air intake. When there's just enough air flowing in, it will work best... but that will pretty much only be at a specific speed, paired with a wide open throttle. When there is too much air flowing in, the intake charge will be very turbulent. Turbulent airflow is one of the largest restrictions in an intake/exhaust design.

ive run a bumper scoop to my SRI for years. as far as performance gains not really different than anyother SRI. as far as highway driving or driving above 40mph i gain all of the benefits of a CAI. my direct air intake on the highway keeps my temp needle slightly above the cold mark and usually highest it goes is 1/4 when its normally at 1/2. i love it and so does my engine and gas mileage. i made a road trip to pick up my c/f hood to florida a few years back and got 450-500miles every tank of gas with this baby no exaggeration.

The temperature of the intake charge really does nothing to cool the engine. The reason you want colder air is that colder air is denser... more oxygen. Once that gets into the engine, it's ignited by the spark... no cooling there. It's fire, baby!
The engine is cooled by the water/coolant flowing through the water passages in the engine, and through the radiator.
Of course, an engine has an optimal operating temperature... cooler isn't always better.