Engine Swap: H22 or B18?

[3rd1sthecharm]

I'm looking to get my 93 accord lx w/ manual transmission back on the road. I was having an issue w/ the motor shutting off randomly. I figure I should just do an engine swap. My original idea was to go w/ an h22, but my cousin tells me w/ an integra ls motor(b18). Which will perform best in my accord. Why would I choose b18 over h22? Are we looking @ a difference in performance?

[hondamanf22]

I think you need to do some reading before looking into swapping your cb. not trying to bash on you but either your messing around or kick your cousin in the nuts.

h22 tell let you know and look at hmotorsonline.com, b18 is a no go.

[cb7_530]

I'm looking to get my 93 accord lx w/ manual transmission back on the road. I was having an issue w/ the motor shutting off randomly. I figure I should just do an engine swap. My original idea was to go w/ an h22, but my cousin tells me w/ an integra ls motor(b18). Which will perform best in my accord. Why would I choose b18 over h22? Are we looking @ a difference in performance?

Your best option is probably get a stock motor or go with the h22. A b-series motor won't fit in your car without some serious modification. With the money your spending to get the b-series into your car, you could've bought the h22.

[Jarrett]

You've been a member here for almost 6 years and you haven't been able to stumble upon this information?

Your cousin may not have a diagnosed disability but it's probably worth checking.

Comparing power figures in stock and modified form alone one might see that a larger variant B-series engine might perform well in an Accord. The issue is the physical size and the axles. Nearly everything would have to be custom. Mounts, axles, linkages for the throttle and shifter and the collector on the header just to name the basic few.

But your engine simply shutting off is not reason to get a new one. First find out why, then fix that issue. It could be something that would affect your new engine as well. Fix the car if it's not an issue that deals with the engines internals and then reassess.

[CB7Nub]

Son.

Do your research.
The Accord weights a LOT more than a Integra.
The B18 will BARELY pull the car.

You have much to learn.
Not to mention all the custom wiring and mounts for it.

[deevergote]

Son.

Do your research.
The Accord weights a LOT more than a Integra.
The B18 will BARELY pull the car.

You have much to learn.
Not to mention all the custom wiring and mounts for it.

Son. You're wrong. The B18 will move the car just fine. The CB came with a carbed 1.8L in other markets.

Jarrett said all that needs to be said on this.
To elaborate on the shift linkage issue... the B series transmissions are shifted by rods, where the H/F series is shifted by cables. To use the rod linkage, you'd need to do some serious cutting on your floor.

[nine_deuce]

If your car shuts off at random, the first thing that comes to mind is the main fuel relay. When the car shuts off, does it start right back up, or does it take a while?

[92cbmil]

A H22 most def. One of the easiest swaps for the CB. A b18 would be to much modding to fit.

[4GAccordH22]

Dood! Go wit da D15 outta da Civic! Hella gas mileage! Nuff said.

But seriously, do your research. This has been covered on this forum.

[SOHC-FTW]

D15b6 8v's of fury /THREAD!


On a serious note an LS would move the car probably just fine hell the crv uses the B20. I have however seen a cd with a b swap WHAT a hacked up pos that was it didn't even run (i wonder why? lol).
Stick with a F/H series the LS is not any better than what you have now and far from worth the money and effort you would have to put into it to make a b series work in the cb chassis.

[3rd1sthecharm]

You've been a member here for almost 6 years and you haven't been able to stumble upon this information?

Your cousin may not have a diagnosed disability but it's probably worth checking.

Comparing power figures in stock and modified form alone one might see that a larger variant B-series engine might perform well in an Accord. The issue is the physical size and the axles. Nearly everything would have to be custom. Mounts, axles, linkages for the throttle and shifter and the collector on the header just to name the basic few.

But your engine simply shutting off is not reason to get a new one. First find out why, then fix that issue. It could be something that would affect your new engine as well. Fix the car if it's not an issue that deals with the engines internals and then reassess.

I haven't been on this forum in the past 6 yrs. I had actually forgotten about the forum. Gas prices got me seriously ready to put that Honda back on the road. Haven't driven the car sense early 08. The engine in the car right now was a jdm swap f22. Never had the shutting off problem w/ the original motor. Switched it originally because I lost a cylinder. After @ least 6 months w/ the replacement motor, it started taking breaks whenever it felt like it. It's so weird. You would think it had a mind of it's own. Sometimes it'll crank right back up. Sometimes it acts like, "no need to keep try'n. We aint go'n nowhere till I rest a lil while." Crazy thing is, I took it to a repair guy. Car would not act up while the shop had it. So of course they couldn't diagnose a problem that wouldn't present itself. I actually had bought an h22 when I did my first engine swap, but my money wasn't right @ the time, & I couldn't afford to pay for the extra labor the guy was gonna charge me, so I sent it back and got the f22. I never thought about it that the problem could be the fuel realay. I really do want the DOHC, though. These issues are my excuse. Ultimately, I want a turbo kit on it.

[F22NVtec]

What's the mileage on the car looking like? What have you checked so far?(Fuses, fuel pump, cables, relays?) It could be a minor issue if anything, especially since the car was sitting.
Also the car might've been manufactured as a 1.8L in other markets like certain parts of asia or europe but it was basically more-so a Destroked single cam F series block that is still made to fit specifically in the accord, so any B-series would be irrelevant.
Just look for the easy diagnostics first and then go from there.
If the problems insist on the car needing a new motor, H22 long blocks start @ $800.00. You can also go F20B(destroked H22) but you'll lose a little torque, and specs can't tell you but you'll lose top end as far as stock goes too. I've eaten a few up.

[deevergote]

If you want a turbo. don't swap. Build the engine you have. There's no good reason to swap out an F22A if you're going turbo, unless you consider wasting money a good reason!

The next time the car cuts out, and doesn't start, try to figure out if it's lacking spark or fuel. It will be one of those. Figure that out, and we can help you fix the problem.