Just another H22 swap!

[IgnoredCBsavior]

Got a 1990 lx 5 speed with 159,000 miles that's been running on three cylinders for 5 months now. Never got to drive it on 4. I think a piston may be damaged as there is no compression in the bad cylinder, so I just unplugged the fuel injector so I'm not polluting the world and my lungs. Now the poor neglected accord goes 0-60 in about 23 seconds, has no power under 2000rpm, and spews white smoke when the engine's cold, not to mention I have to add a quart of oil every other week. Well I've had enough of driving a car with no power so it's time for a change.
I have the full neglected cb7 story here http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=206631

Was originally planning on just getting a new f22 but it's very difficult to find a decent used engine without 47,500,000 miles on it, plus I discovered the H22 possibility. I was originally going to have a mechanic do the swap for me but I slowly realized that no mechanic wants to do an engine conversion so I'm doing it myself. I borrowed an engine hoist from one of my professors and bought all the tools I needed.
Here's the list of parts I have or am getting. I've done hours of research but I'm still new to this and would appreciate any advice and/or criticism.
I'll be getting just the motor because I'm a baller on a budget at the moment as I finish my final year of college, and I'd prefer better highway mpg over acceleration.

Purchased Items:

JDM H22a from hmotorsonline (with p13 ecu and downpipe)

Wear n Tear Parts
From hondaautomotiveparts,


92 SI timing belt adjuster
92 SI Bolt, timing belt adjuster spring
92 SI Bolt timing belt adjuster
92 SI plate, adjuster
92 SI bolt, timing belt adjuster base
92 SI Washer plain
90 Accord fuel filter

93 prelude sivtec parts:
hose, water outlet
thermostat assembly
Gasket therm case
Oil pump-oil strainer
oil filter
Intake manifold
o-ring upper x4
o ring 1.81
injector cushion ring x4
lower injector seal ring x4
DISTRIBUTOR
Distributor rotor
cap assy
drain plug crush washer
gasket set, head cover

Genuine Honda MT oil

Autozone,
Dayco adjuster, balance belt tensioner
Dayco adjuster, timing belt tensioner <- Won't be using
Dayco timing belt
Dayco Balance belt
Dayco Water Pump
10w-30 Castrol synthetic
NGK Iridium IX spark plugs


Oreilly,
Magnaflow Direct fit catalytic converter

Amazon,
NGK Leads
Genuine Honda power steering fluid

Ebay,
Used OEM PS High pressure line.

USautoparts
Exedy Stage 1 Clutch kit


Yonaka catback

Keeping 5 month old f22 thermostat

I want this car to be a sleeper so I'd like to keep the noise level and cosmetic enhancements to a minimum.

Engine bay as of now


Exterior as of today

[Jarrett]

Make sure the engine you get comes with the appropriate P13 ECU.


Also, I would purchase one of these to stupid-proof the additional wiring the H22A needs.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Acura-...5f4b6e&vxp=mtr

[93redcb7]

i dont know how reputable the place your getting the motor from is.. BUT hmotorsonline.com is VERY reputable from just about everyone on here that has bought from them im sure. also probably be a good time to do trans oil and i would recommend doing oem for timing belt/water pump

[IgnoredCBsavior]

Thanks for the advice guys.

This may be a dumb question but would the F22 timing belt fit on the h22?
I cant remember if I read somewhere that said if it would or not. I'd like to keep my timing belt as it is also 5 months old.

[Jarrett]

No, it won't. It's much shorter as it only has to wrap around one camshaft gear instead of two.

[deevergote]

i dont know how reputable the place your getting the motor from is.. BUT hmotorsonline.com is VERY reputable from just about everyone on here that has bought from them im sure. also probably be a good time to do trans oil and i would recommend doing oem for timing belt/water pump

I agree with this 100&#37;. Having had my swap (from hmotorsonline) since before this site even began, and then watching people order engines from there and other places over the years on these pages... there has been a very clear trend. The hmotors engines are almost always good (and the one bad one I recall was taken care of quickly and professionally, with no major hassle.) Other companies, especially companies selling engines so cheap, very often sell questionable engines. In order to keep their prices down, they skimp on quality control (testing and such), they buy from less-reputable recyclers overseas, and many of them don't actually buy their engines from Japan (meaning the mileage is likely MUCH higher than expected.)

I recently talked to a guy that specifically ordered an OBD1 JDM H22A from TigerJapanese. What he got was an OBD2 Australian H22Z1. Unlike Japan, where it is not very economical to put much more than 35,000 miles on a car before replacing it, Australians can (and do) drive about as much as Americans... so it was likely that the engine he got had well over 100,000 miles on it! When he contacted them regarding the error, they told him to just go ahead and install it... it will work just fine. He said no, and I believe they finally agreed to replace it with what he ordered... but he had to ship the engine back to Canada, which would cost him practically half again of what he paid for it.
Since Tiger is in Canada, and the buyer was in the US, suing them would be very difficult and expensive. Beyond the means of most CB7tuners.
These cheap Canadian engine sellers are often VERY bad news. If you're going to buy cheap, at least buy from a cheap seller in the US. At least then it will be a bit easier to take legal action if necessary.
Otherwise, it's a gamble. And the older these engines get, the greater that gamble is!

[IgnoredCBsavior]

I agree with this 100%. Having had my swap (from hmotorsonline) since before this site even began, and then watching people order engines from there and other places over the years on these pages... there has been a very clear trend. The hmotors engines are almost always good (and the one bad one I recall was taken care of quickly and professionally, with no major hassle.) Other companies, especially companies selling engines so cheap, very often sell questionable engines. In order to keep their prices down, they skimp on quality control (testing and such), they buy from less-reputable recyclers overseas, and many of them don't actually buy their engines from Japan (meaning the mileage is likely MUCH higher than expected.)

I recently talked to a guy that specifically ordered an OBD1 JDM H22A from TigerJapanese. What he got was an OBD2 Australian H22Z1. Unlike Japan, where it is not very economical to put much more than 35,000 miles on a car before replacing it, Australians can (and do) drive about as much as Americans... so it was likely that the engine he got had well over 100,000 miles on it! When he contacted them regarding the error, they told him to just go ahead and install it... it will work just fine. He said no, and I believe they finally agreed to replace it with what he ordered... but he had to ship the engine back to Canada, which would cost him practically half again of what he paid for it.
Since Tiger is in Canada, and the buyer was in the US, suing them would be very difficult and expensive. Beyond the means of most CB7tuners.
These cheap Canadian engine sellers are often VERY bad news. If you're going to buy cheap, at least buy from a cheap seller in the US. At least then it will be a bit easier to take legal action if necessary.
Otherwise, it's a gamble. And the older these engines get, the greater that gamble is!

Thank you for the wisdom, I'll be going with hmotors. I chose jdmenginecorp because I've read many good reviews on them and they're price was much lower and offer free shipping to a business, however everyone seems to have much more confidence with hmotors so I'll spend the extra $.

[deevergote]

Smart move.

The guy that bought his engine from Tiger said the same about them. The cheap places sell in such volume that there are plenty of positive reviews (not every engine they sell is crap... it's just more likely that you'd get crap, and you'd have less recourse in that event!)
The ONLY downside to hmotors is the price. You truly do get what you pay for, though. I'm confident in saying there is simply no other engine importer with as good a reputation. They're one of the most honorable businesses I've ever come across in the import scene.

[The G-Man]

+1 for hmotorsonline too. Good customer service and you definitely get what you pay for.

[Grumpys93]

+2. I've never bought from them but 3 of my friends did and their h22 are still running to this day with no problems. Good luck with the swap.

[wagon-r]

Why the OBX ceramic header? It won't be any better than the stock H22A header. Save a few bucks.

[Jarrett]

Because the factory H22A you get in the condition as it comes from many importers doesn't always include a bolt-on solution header. If it does not, it's nice to plan ahead.

[IgnoredCBsavior]

Why the OBX ceramic header? It won't be any better than the stock H22A header. Save a few bucks.

Well I've read on a few different sites that the h22 header won't bolt up correctly to the f22 down pipe, I'd this correct.

[deevergote]

You never use the F22 "down pipe". The H22A manifold from a 5th gen Prelude is too short. The 4th gen Prelude's manifold will fit fine.

[IgnoredCBsavior]

You never use the F22 "down pipe". The H22A manifold from a 5th gen Prelude is too short. The 4th gen Prelude's manifold will fit fine.

Ok, I'll take the header off the list then.