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    Toe?

    Was just reading a thread and they were talking about camber and toe. I know camber... but wtf is toe?
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    Originally posted by mchaley
    Was just reading a thread and they were talking about camber and toe. I know camber... but wtf is toe?
    Toe is when the tires are either like: / \ or \ /

    And if your toe is out, say good bye to tires. I went through a set of tires in 3000 miles with bad toe adjustment.

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      #3
      Looking at the front of the car, the wheels will be like pac man and not straight/parallel. Basically, the tires will be going down the road sideways, just dragging the rubber along wearing it away super fast. Camber and toe is the worst combo b/c it focuses the wear onto 1 section of the contact patch.

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        oh, I see a lot of drift cars with tires like / \ for show... but I thought that was camber. What is camber then? :P
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          #5
          Originally posted by mchaley
          oh, I see a lot of drift cars with tires like / \ for show... but I thought that was camber. What is camber then? :P




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            ^^^good post

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              That is cool. Got one for Castor?

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                #8
                Castor is some weird ish. That is what your radius rod adjusts. It is how close to the front or back of the wheel well your tire sits.
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                  #9
                  Caster refers to the angle of the knuckle/suspension hardware to vertical.

                  There is usually an angle there, to that your knuckle is not actually vertical. It is usually leaned back a few degrees.

                  I would be similar to the animations posted above, but looking at the side, and having the top of the knuckle angle back for positive caster, or foward for negative caster.

                  For positive caster, you can look at the angle of the front suspension on a motorcycle.

                  I am not sure of the exact dynamics of it, but this has a lot to do with stability when going over bumps etc.
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                    #10
                    Compare caster to a handtruck... you know, the thing you use to maneuver large objects.


                    With the thing standing straight up, it's difficult to control if you try to move it. When you tip it backwards, you gain more control. Too far back, you lose that control. Although it's impossible, you could imagine how difficult it'd be to control if you were able to tip it forwards and try to roll it...

                    Caster is that angle. The forward and backward suspension angle in relation to the wheel. L/======|] <-- Horrible illustration, but imagine that to be the side of your car, and the slanted line is the caster angle of the front wheels/suspension. Make sense?






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                      #11
                      Caster is a non tire wear angle will cause a pull to pos, and helps with high speed stablitiy, Lots of sports cars in the 7-8 degree range, and helps the wheel return to center. Camber and Toe have direct effects on each other and Toe will not cause a pull. There is alot of other angles as well that is not thought or talked about SAI, Scrub Radius,Set-back.
                      I am not sure of the exact dynamics of it, but this has a lot to do with stability when going over bumps etc.
                      I think you are talking about bump steer, that is from the rack being out of parellal when you lower the car the rack goes from this - - - to this\ _ / of course not that dramatic

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                        Huh :P Wasnt Caster the evil character in Face off? :P
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