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F20A Inside F22A4?

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    F20A Inside F22A4?

    Im buying a real nice low mile F20a and for smog purposes i need to place the internals in my old F22a4. The crank bearings are the same right? Either that or i want to put the higher compression pistons in the F22 for a rebuild since they are the same bore.
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    How is this for smog purposes?

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      #3
      Originally posted by CB7Man View Post
      Im buying a real nice low mile F20a and for smog purposes i need to place the internals in my old F22a4. The crank bearings are the same right? Either that or i want to put the higher compression pistons in the F22 for a rebuild since they are the same bore.
      If you are refering to the Soch F20a then the big end bearings are not the same as F22a.


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        #4
        Well I went nitty gritty and the engine blocks and bearings are identical.

        If you wonder why I said its for smog, is that an F20A is not visually smog legal in California. However an F22A4 is visually smog legal and should get better gas mileage and emissions with higher compression.
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          #5
          i honestly dont think you check for block identification during a smog check. hell you could probabl have a f22b1 vtec and just shave the valve cover and the smog tech wouldnt notice. at least i wouldnt notice, lol.

          Anyways...Everything will swap right in, make sure your a4 bores arent too big otherwise you WILL need a oversize piston.
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            #6
            Put a bunch of grease and dirt over everything. cant see the code for shizz
            wat?

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              #7
              Originally posted by CB7Man View Post
              Well I went nitty gritty and the engine blocks and bearings are identical.
              As in you Physically checked them with a micrometer?

              Originally posted by wed3k View Post
              Anyways...Everything will swap right in
              For which engine? F20 dohc or F20 sohc.
              Oh and does that account for the shorter F20 rods?
              Last edited by evil_demon_01; 09-30-2010, 04:50 AM.


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                #8
                Isn't it basically just a destroked F22 with higher comp? In which case couldn't you run the F20 crank with the longer F22 rods and the higher comp pistons to get a really high reving engine?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sarthos View Post
                  Isn't it basically just a destroked F22 with higher comp? In which case couldn't you run the F20 crank with the longer F22 rods and the higher comp pistons to get a really high reving engine?
                  Umm F20 crank with short F22 rods with high compression pistons would give a rev monster but the F20 pistons already stick out the block. so a longer rod would be bad.

                  Its a sohc f20
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                    #10
                    runt he f20 rod and f20 crank. otherwise you'll have issues with deck clearance.

                    like my project with running a h22 piston with f22 rods, im going to end up with the piston .040 out of the hole.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by wed3k View Post
                      runt he f20 rod and f20 crank. otherwise you'll have issues with deck clearance.

                      like my project with running a h22 piston with f22 rods, im going to end up with the piston .040 out of the hole.
                      The f20 assembly already has the pistons poking out lol
                      I have access to an f20c block....can i use anything?
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                        #12
                        paper weight
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                          #13
                          All done
                          F20a inside a F22A1 block
                          Amazing, the engine block had 280,000 miles and the bore at its largest point was .002 out of spec.
                          Pistons were the same AABA
                          All rods bearins were within specs 1.2~1.5
                          Main bearings were mostly the same asside from 1 being smaller. But it was wore in to specs. These bothered me because they were getting close to outside specs 1.8~2.1

                          Talked to a rebuilder and he likes to run 2.5 on mains. Owell


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                            #14
                            Wow a year later and results are in

                            Looking clean bro congrats on your successful build


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                              #15
                              F20a rods aren't shorter...they are longer. Deck height is the same between engines and the f20a has a shorter stroke. You have to make that up with a longer rod. This engine has a 1.65:1 rod/stroke ratio.
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