n/a or turbo

[jm991700]

Saying "turbo will win because it always has more torque than NA" is not an opinion.

Saying "No matter what u do to a H22 N/a, it will never produce the torque and Hp that a turbo would." is not an opinion.

Those are false statements, not opinions.

Saying "I think turbo's are better than NA builds" is an opinion.

Get me a car that produces just as much power in the same chassis than your car and I will race you.

Until then, any other race would be unfair.

And I'm not taking anything personal. I like proving people wrong, especially when it's completely bullshit.

You want respect? Know your stuff before you go around posting bullshit. Opinions are one thing, false statements are another.

I know my stuff, trust me. I heard it all and none have impress me, just like u. U talk a good game, but dont have nothing to bring to the table.

[F22HB]

The potential to make more hp is there when you add some sort of fi. Anybody can cram air into a cylinder and add fuel to make boom though. I'd say its more impressive to make numbers N/A. My cars after the civic will probly all stay n/a if they didn't wern't fi stock.

[d112crzy]

Turn it down to where you make the same amount of hp. Screw the torque.

Instead of bench racing, I will compare members setups.
2point6
ALL MOTOR H22 POWERED ACCORD
283.8 WHP 213.56WTQ
12.721 @ 108.30

Now, lets compare to a boosted vehicle with about the same power levels.
bjaccord
280whp/258wtq t3/t04e@9.5psi h23 DOHC
13.26 @ 105.38 mph

bjaccord has 3whp less, but plenty more torque, but is still slower.

I have plenty to bring to the table. I don't have a fast accord, if that's what you're insinuating. I chose not to because accords are a bad platform(IMO) to make fast, because I don't have the money to do it, or even care to do it.

I build my own engines, tune MANY engines, swap many engines.

AND I didn't even take a single class to know what I know and do what I do.

[jm991700]

Turn it down to where you make the same amount of hp. Screw the torque.

Instead of bench racing, I will compare members setups.
2point6
ALL MOTOR H22 POWERED ACCORD
283.8 WHP 213.56WTQ
12.721 @ 108.30

Now, lets compare to a boosted vehicle with about the same power levels.
bjaccord
280whp/258wtq t3/t04e@9.5psi h23 DOHC
13.26 @ 105.38 mph

bjaccord has 3whp less, but plenty more torque, but is still slower.

I have plenty to bring to the table. I don't have a fast accord, if that's what you're insinuating. I chose not to because accords are a bad platform(IMO) to make fast, because I don't have the money to do it, or even care to do it.

I build my own engines, tune MANY engines, swap many engines.

AND I didn't even take a single class to know what I know and do what I do.

Ok cool im not giong to keep going back in forth, u do what u do , i do what i do. We both love honda, and we will continue to do our thing.I hope everything goes good with your honda and wish u the best. Let me know how things going. Keep in touch

[d112crzy]

Cmon, make this somewhat fun. Don't go into a discussion and then back out when solid evidence is shoved in your face.

[arthaccord]

i think this thread is funny

[jm991700]

Cmon, make this somewhat fun. Don't go into a discussion and then back out when solid evidence is shoved in your face.

No u didnt show me nothing to my face, i dont see the point of going back in forth, when nothing is going to happen, u not going to change my mind and im not going to change yours, Plus i have other things to do. Its been fun. Maybe we might be at the same cb7 meet.

[F22HB]

When you get down to it, there is a reason they seperate turbo and n/a classes. More power can be made with a turbo cramming air in a cylinder.

[wed3k]

I hate honda-tech. I don't remember the last time I posted there. Don't ever refer to me and honda-tech in the same sentence.

lets bench race some more guys.

[jm991700]

check this out.
http://www.honda-portal.com/honda-vi...hp?video_id=74
Lets see a N/A civic do this

[d112crzy]

Hand bisimoto more money, he's well on his way.

I thought you were done?

[trah]

my vespa does 0-20 in 8 seconds lets see that civic do that

[Grumpys93]

I'd like to see bisi's 400whp NA f22 go against a 600whp turbo in the same chassis.

I doubt the turbo will get ANYWHERE near 10's. Bisi ran a 9.54 last I checked.

X2

Even though i am turbo, n/a wil always beat fi. If you have the same horsepower car one iwth turbo and one with n/a i beat the n/a will walk the fi anyday. But personally i like the feeling of boost kicking in. Ya n/a feels a lot better in my perspective shift slam in the back of your seat, shift slam in the back of your seat. Where as boost is shift get pushed back then slamed then shift pushed back then slam. But ya traction is a problem i have traction bars, filed mounts and decent tires and i still break traction in a 40 pull and i am only pushing 230-250whp. But like i said and everyone else do research and do what you want to do. But do it right the first time. It will save you money and time in the long run