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    Questions on low PSI Turbo

    Ok so im running a turbo setup on my stock JDM H22A and i was going to run about 5-8 PSI do i need an intercooler ? I was told under 9 PSI i didnt need one as long as i wasnt on it 24/7. if so, which will do ?


    http://www.amazon.com/Mishimoto-MMIN...sim_sbs_auto_1


    http://www.amazon.com/Mishimoto-MMIN...sim_sbs_auto_1
    Last edited by tutsuo; 06-19-2012, 07:31 PM.
    Jesus drove a Honda, he just didnt talk about it like us. Proof - John 12:49 "For i did not speak of my own accord."
    Originally posted by deevergote
    den das al u ned u no dat u get wurs gas milge tho rite?
    Originally posted by deevergote
    These cars will never be the best at anything, but they're pretty damn good at everything.
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    u need a intercooler if u boosting period the first intercooler is just fine

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      #3
      Originally posted by 92accordkidd View Post
      u need a intercooler if u boosting period the first intercooler is just fine
      yay
      Jesus drove a Honda, he just didnt talk about it like us. Proof - John 12:49 "For i did not speak of my own accord."
      Originally posted by deevergote
      den das al u ned u no dat u get wurs gas milge tho rite?
      Originally posted by deevergote
      These cars will never be the best at anything, but they're pretty damn good at everything.

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        #4
        The amount of heat created (and thus needing to be cooled down) by a turbo AT 8psi is largely dependent on what turbo you have and much less dependent on the specific psi number. A motorcycle turbo could be used to create 8psi and a tremendous amount of heat at a very low rpm, a big diesel turbo could be used to create 8psi and very little heat (though the 8psi would come at HIGH revs)......so what turbo are you planning on using?
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        Bisimoto header before & after dyno

        1993 10th Anniversary: F22a6, H23IM, Bisimoto header, Custom mandrel exhaust, 5spd swap.

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          #5
          this intercooler is good to i just purchased it

          http://www.amazon.com/Godspeed-Super...oler+universal

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            #6
            Originally posted by 19dabeast85 View Post
            The amount of heat created (and thus needing to be cooled down) by a turbo AT 8psi is largely dependent on what turbo you have and much less dependent on the specific psi number. A motorcycle turbo could be used to create 8psi and a tremendous amount of heat at a very low rpm, a big diesel turbo could be used to create 8psi and very little heat (though the 8psi would come at HIGH revs)......so what turbo are you planning on using?
            Originally posted by 92accordkidd View Post
            this intercooler is good to i just purchased it

            http://www.amazon.com/Godspeed-Super...oler+universal
            A garret t3/t4 and that intercooler is better then

            http://www.amazon.com/Mishimoto-MMIN...sim_sbs_auto_1

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            Jesus drove a Honda, he just didnt talk about it like us. Proof - John 12:49 "For i did not speak of my own accord."
            Originally posted by deevergote
            den das al u ned u no dat u get wurs gas milge tho rite?
            Originally posted by deevergote
            These cars will never be the best at anything, but they're pretty damn good at everything.

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              #7
              im saying that one is a good intercooler too

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                #8
                Mishimoto makes an amazing cooler. Godspeed is a nice cooler as well.


                As mentioned, you will need one if you want to safely run boost. The heat is 1/2 explained as mentioned, but heat is also generated from compressing air.

                The compressed air is hotter than atmospheric temperature. Pair that with the heat generated by the turbo as was already mentioned and its def in your best interest to run an intercooler.
                Originally posted by wed3k
                im a douchebag to people and i don't even own a lambo. whats your point? we, douchbags, come in all sorts of shapes and colours.

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                  #9
                  ok i will get this one http://www.amazon.com/Mishimoto-MMIN...sim_sbs_auto_1 , i was recommended to get a 29x12x3 but i cannot find one that isnt an off brand ebay junk.
                  Jesus drove a Honda, he just didnt talk about it like us. Proof - John 12:49 "For i did not speak of my own accord."
                  Originally posted by deevergote
                  den das al u ned u no dat u get wurs gas milge tho rite?
                  Originally posted by deevergote
                  These cars will never be the best at anything, but they're pretty damn good at everything.

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                    #10
                    That'll work out great for you. Nice choice man, good intercooler.
                    Originally posted by wed3k
                    im a douchebag to people and i don't even own a lambo. whats your point? we, douchbags, come in all sorts of shapes and colours.

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                      #11
                      t3/t4 at 8psi...yes I agree you want an intercooler! You could get by without but much safer with one. And yes, compressing air and turbo heatsoak DO play a factor in the air temp.
                      My Member's Ride Thread

                      Bisimoto header before & after dyno

                      1993 10th Anniversary: F22a6, H23IM, Bisimoto header, Custom mandrel exhaust, 5spd swap.

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                        #12
                        If you did a secondary bank of injectors into the plenum, its possible to pull enough heat out of the air with the fuel to net a similar intake temperature as an intercooled setup. Not as practical and definitely more expensive, but just saying it can and has been done.
                        There are no black and white suspension answers!!!!!!!!!!!

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                          #13
                          Fuel-cooling is how many early non-intercooled setups worked. I think my old Dodge Shadow (1st car) was like that. 140hp of pure crap!

                          Anyway, yes... take any and all precautions if you don't want this stock-block H22 to blow up too quickly. It will definitely blow eventually, but you might be able to enjoy it for a little while before it does, if you keep the boost and temps low.






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                            #14
                            Originally posted by deevergote View Post
                            Fuel-cooling is how many early non-intercooled setups worked. I think my old Dodge Shadow (1st car) was like that. 140hp of pure crap!

                            Anyway, yes... take any and all precautions if you don't want this stock-block H22 to blow up too quickly. It will definitely blow eventually, but you might be able to enjoy it for a little while before it does, if you keep the boost and temps low.
                            It was crap because it was a shadow, not because it was fuel-cooled.
                            There are no black and white suspension answers!!!!!!!!!!!

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                              #15
                              The last time I talked to my ex (not too long ago), she told me she smelled gas, and immediately thought of that old POS shadow, and it's fuel leak.






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