sh vs base

[newtuner7]

whats the difference between the sh and the base motors?? i believe i have an sh block and was wondering why a different tranny was used and if a regular h22 5 spd tranny would bolt up to it. thanks

[NAiL05]

Trans.

[newtuner7]

i know they had a different trans, but is it not compatible with the base 5 spd?

[NAiL05]

It compatible. The ATTS trans however is not. Also some parts are different I forgot what is what.

[The G-Man]

Easy way to identify SH block is the back of the block is cast different. The oil filter is in a different location and you cannot bolt a stock intermediate shaft to it. The ATTS system took the place of the intermediate shaft. To use in a CB& would take the fabrication of a bracket to be able to bolt the intermediate shaft up.

[bagoon316]

right if you have a an sh block then a normal f/h series tranny will NOT bolt to it. i am still looking for that link for you. gimme some time. only the base h22a4 the trannies will mate.

[bagoon316]

ahh found it second post down by behan he was quoting someone else...list in detail the differences including the casts of the block for tranny mounting...

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=762014

enjoy fellas...still looking for a base h22a4 block, bare w/ crank only, oh yeh 98+, no 97 for me.

[The G-Man]

right if you have a an sh block then a normal f/h series tranny will NOT bolt to it. i am still looking for that link for you. gimme some time. only the base h22a4 the trannies will mate.

NOT TRUE!!!!!

The transmission bolts up fine. In fact I think it is possible to use an SH tranny in a CB7. The ATTS unit is completely independent of the tranny. It bolts up where the intermediate shaft would normally go.

[cp[mike]]

NOT TRUE!!!!!

The transmission bolts up fine. In fact I think it is possible to use an SH tranny in a CB7. The ATTS unit is completely independent of the tranny. It bolts up where the intermediate shaft would normally go.

nope :P

im almost positive the transmission itself would bolt on, but the back of the block is very different and you cannot bolt a normal intermediate shaft on, plus it would hit the oil filter's new location.

[The G-Man]

nope :P

im almost positive the transmission itself would bolt on, but the back of the block is very different and you cannot bolt a normal intermediate shaft on, plus it would hit the oil filter's new location.

Not sure about it hitting the oil filter exactly. I will find out soon enough though.

Easy way to identify SH block is the back of the block is cast different. The oil filter is in a different location and you cannot bolt a stock intermediate shaft to it. The ATTS system took the place of the intermediate shaft. To use in a CB& would take the fabrication of a bracket to be able to bolt the intermediate shaft up.

This thread on honda society shows an SH block with a 5th generation accord intermediate shaft bolted up.
http://www.hondasociety.com/board/sh...light=h22a4+sh

See that hole above where the end of the intermediate shaft bolts? That is where the thing for the oil filter bolts up.

Edit:
This honda-tech thread solves everything:
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1081801

[koffin]

No

right if you have a an sh block then a normal f/h series tranny will NOT bolt to it. i am still looking for that link for you. gimme some time. only the base h22a4 the trannies will mate.

This is NOT correct. How do I know? Because I'm driving an H22a4 sh motor with an F22 trans.

[wrichards2005]

Yeah, theres major modifications required from what I hear.

As far as getting an engine, AZaccord has an engine for sale (but it doesn't have crank).

[koffin]

Yeah, theres major modifications required from what I hear.

As far as getting an engine, AZaccord has an engine for sale (but it doesn't have crank).

Not really, just fabbing an adapter plate for the half-shaft and tapping the block.

[90Cb7sleeper]

Not really, just fabbing an adapter plate for the half-shaft and tapping the block.

Theres no tapping of the block required. the holes where the atts bolted are already tapped. However, it is not required, but i highly reccomend that you tap the adaptor plate for teh intermediate shaft bolts. Reason being, i that there is no way to tighten up the bottom bolt on the intediate shaft, being that there is not a nut there (it will not fit between the block and plate).