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Originally posted by Ralphie View PostThat's why I am eyeing a 10th gen 2.0T sport.
Haven't heard anything bad about them yet, though they have only been on the road for a bit.
I got my current EX over a sport because the 9th gen sport was a weird hodge podge of features, and did not include a sunroof which I prefer, and no PTS.
The 10th gen Sport is based on the EX, and is appropriately loaded. Except for the Touring, which has a shit load more features, its not missing anything that I would lose sleep over, has a good platform to mod, and the interior is just amazing.
I don't love the rear end, but it looks way better in person than in pictures.
I have not driven one yet, but I am sure id like it.
My only issue is that I was really wanting a 6spd, but my wife needs access to the car when I need to haul kids around, and so ill probably just go with the 10AT which is a bit faster anyway.
Hondata is close to 400 lb-ft plus out of theirs on E85. So far, the tranny hasn't blown up.
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Originally posted by verothacamaro View PostHondata and VitViper are doing amazing things with the L15. There's no doubt that it's a really stout engine.
Bolt-on (+ aux fuel + slicks) Si is already running 12s at over 110mph which is amazing.
I still remember the days when a very powerful DSM would struggle to break mid-13s @ 108mph and the acceleration was borderline violent
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Originally posted by verothacamaro View PostWhen did you trade up from the Si to an AV6? What year did you end up going with?
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Originally posted by owequitit View PostHonestly, I would take the 10AT. It's faster AND easier to drive. Very well calibrated powertrain actually.
Hondata is close to 400 lb-ft plus out of theirs on E85. So far, the tranny hasn't blown up.
I never actually owned a manual, but I used to borrow my roomates truck all the time, and I always wanted to have one because the driving experience and connection was immediate.
A lot of people think the shift-by-wire is stupid, but I think if you are not going to have a manual, then id rather push a button to park, drive, neutral anyway as it has a cool factor too it and its a bit classy, like the high end german cars have had, even Lexus etc. Maybe even higher trim Hyundai's ?
Anyway- Everytime I look at pictures of the interior or see videos, I find something new I love, like the speedo being a traditional analog but having a digital tach that can be changed to show other information.
Its the little things that I have always loved, and from what I have heard, they got it mostly right with this car.
As far as exterior, sometimes I look at it and im like ...damn why couldn't it be a sportier version of the 9th gen.
Other times I look at it and im like, man if you debadge it, its a fucking Audi A4. Yea I want Honda to look like Honda, but honestly I passed one the other day, in the same light grey as EVERY Audi I see, and Im like damn, it looks like an Audi with Honda accents. I can dig it. Audi's have always looked great, so if you're going to model after anyone, I can't complain.
I think the 9th gen crowd is mad because now you can't really put Lexus taillights on the car LMAO. Since that seems to be the cool thing to do.
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Personally I want to see what happens with the ILX. The Civic with its details cleaned up and the 2.0T + 10AT sounds really good. I like what Acura did with the RDX. An ILX SH-AWD + RDX would make for a nice stable for the glory household.
Originally posted by lordojaim with you on that one bro! aint nothing beat free food and drinks any day of the week, even if its at a funeral
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Originally posted by gloryaccordy View PostPersonally I want to see what happens with the ILX. The Civic with its details cleaned up and the 2.0T + 10AT sounds really good. I like what Acura did with the RDX. An ILX SH-AWD + RDX would make for a nice stable for the glory household.
They pushed this idea of technology and precision, but were neither technologically advanced nor precise.
As it stands, aside from the availability of SH-AWD, the Honda products offer better value and in some cases, more options.
I don't know who the hell was steering the ship at Acura these last few years, but they didn't do the brand any favors.14 Ford Focus ST - stock(ish) - E30 Tune + Green Filter =
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Originally posted by verothacamaro View PostAgreed. Acura needs to define their brand better than they have been recently and develop a foundational value proposition that consumers can instantly identify with.
They pushed this idea of technology and precision, but were neither technologically advanced nor precise.
As it stands, aside from the availability of SH-AWD, the Honda products offer better value and in some cases, more options.
I don't know who the hell was steering the ship at Acura these last few years, but they didn't do the brand any favors.
Honda basically hit the "reset" button and that is what has allowed us to get these much more Honda oriented products (as opposed to garbage that would have made pre-bankruptcy GM proud).
My only hope is that this carries over to Acura, though the preliminaries on the RDX look OK so far.
I also think that Honda needs to fire Dave Merek without any question, doubt or hesitation. Anything he has ever touched has been an unmitigated styling disaster. 2nd gen Pilot, ASCC concept, 2009 TL, etc.
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Originally posted by deevergote View PostI’m one of the weirdos that actually liked the crosstour, zdx, element (the early ones with black trim especially) and 09 TL.
The 6MT AWD model was an absolutely incredible car. I really WANTED to like them, but the styling was just so ridiculous.
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Everyone hated the ZDX, but in hindsight Acura was ahead of the game. IT was just the execution. The X6 came out the same year and has been a smash.
I think a new ZDX could be Acura's new flagship. The RLX is irrelevant old man shit. For better or worse crossovers are the new status symbol. They are very easy to live with too. But they absolutely have to size them for Americans. I think the MDX/ZDX could be a Japanese answer to the GLE/GLE Coupe and X5/X6.
Originally posted by lordojaim with you on that one bro! aint nothing beat free food and drinks any day of the week, even if its at a funeral
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The market will pull them in another way. I actually said elsewhere the Stinger should have been a crossover. It doesn't weigh much less than a crossover with similar engines, and it's pretty cramped. I love my G but there's definitely a place for crossovers, especially some that are affordable and fun to drive.
Originally posted by lordojaim with you on that one bro! aint nothing beat free food and drinks any day of the week, even if its at a funeral
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