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    Myths, misconceptions, and misinformation...

    I see so many absolutely HORRIBLE bits of information flying around forums these days... Moreso on other forums than here, thankfully, but still...


    Let's see if we can compile a list of common myths as they relate to tuning (cb7s specifically, though Hondas in general, or all cars if it applies)
    Someone recently PMed me about making a forum about this, and I forget who it was! I think a thread would be better suited, at least for now.Whoever sent that PM, step up and take credit


    So, on with the list!

    1. Hollowing out your catalytic converter - This does not make power. If anything, it causes a loss in power. A hollow cat creates turbulance and a place for the exhaust flow to stagnate. A free flowing exhaust only works when the gas velocity can be kept at a decent level.

    2. The CB7 is too heavy for any engine smaller than 2.2L. - Bull. Granted, "there's no replacement for displacement"... But in many countries, the CB came with a 2.0L engine, or even a 1.8L engine (even carbureted!) Sure, they aren't rockets, but they move just fine. The engine size is a common argument against B series swaps. A B18 would move the CB7 easily enough. The engine size isn't the reason why the swap isn't practical... it's the cost of fabrication, versus the direct H and F swaps.

    3. You can't boost an H22 because the compression is too high - This is only partially true... The main reason for this is that high compression significantly decreases the threshold for error. If you don't know how to properly tune a high compression turbo engine, the chances are greater that you will do damage. Lower compression gives more room for error.



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    #2
    Originally posted by deevergote
    1. Hollowing out your catalytic converter - This does not make power. If anything, it causes a loss in power. A hollow cat creates turbulance and a place for the exhaust flow to stagnate. A free flowing exhaust only works when the gas velocity can be kept at a decent level

    oh my god, this guy i know with a 240 did this and was telling me it gave him gains. ahahaahaha.


    served.



    nice thread deev!!!

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      #3
      Originally posted by deevergote
      I see so many absolutely HORRIBLE bits of information flying around forums these days... Moreso on other forums than here, thankfully, but still...


      Let's see if we can compile a list of common myths as they relate to tuning (cb7s specifically, though Hondas in general, or all cars if it applies)
      Someone recently PMed me about making a forum about this, and I forget who it was! I think a thread would be better suited, at least for now.Whoever sent that PM, step up and take credit


      So, on with the list!

      1. Hollowing out your catalytic converter - This does not make power. If anything, it causes a loss in power. A hollow cat creates turbulance and a place for the exhaust flow to stagnate. A free flowing exhaust only works when the gas velocity can be kept at a decent level.

      2. The CB7 is too heavy for any engine smaller than 2.2L. - Bull. Granted, "there's no replacement for displacement"... But in many countries, the CB came with a 2.0L engine, or even a 1.8L engine (even carbureted!) Sure, they aren't rockets, but they move just fine. The engine size is a common argument against B series swaps. A B18 would move the CB7 easily enough. The engine size isn't the reason why the swap isn't practical... it's the cost of fabrication, versus the direct H and F swaps.

      3. You can't boost an H22 because the compression is too high - This is only partially true... The main reason for this is that high compression significantly decreases the threshold for error. If you don't know how to properly tune a high compression turbo engine, the chances are greater that you will do damage. Lower compression gives more room for error.



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      1) put this one on mythbusters

      2) b-series in a cb7 is sacreligous

      3) i was just thinking about this today...glad you posted it

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        #4
        "neuspeed race springs on stock shocks are fine"



        dont

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          #5
          the best modification to your vehcile for twisties = tires.

          its what keep you on the ground

          actually a better driver but its hard to replce that yourself
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            #6
            Originally posted by wed3k
            the best modification to your vehicle for twisties = tires.

            how is that wrong
            as properly lowered as you can get if you're running plastic tires you'll be all over the place.

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              #7
              Cut/heated springs are as good as lowering springs
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                #8
                Originally posted by 93accordexcoupe
                "neuspeed race springs on stock shocks are fine"



                dont

                Mine are fine

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by f22a4bandit
                  Cut/heated springs are as good as lowering springs
                  haha I cut my stock springs for shits and giggles a few weeks ago. Lets just say it would have been dangerous if I put them back on the car.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by deevergote
                    1. Hollowing out your catalytic converter - This does not make power. If anything, it causes a loss in power. A hollow cat creates turbulance and a place for the exhaust flow to stagnate. A free flowing exhaust only works when the gas velocity can be kept at a decent level.
                    True story, especially on newer model cars. It's hilarious to me when I hear kids with 2005 mazda 6's talking about how he removed his cats for racing....
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by BIGTUFFGUY
                      how is that wrong
                      as properly lowered as you can get if you're running plastic tires you'll be all over the place.
                      its not wrong...the common misconception is to throw on all this suspension mods without even taking a look at tires.

                      this si coming from experience and thank god im still alive otherwise id be somewhere down the mountain if i would have spun out the other direction.
                      I <3 G60.

                      0.5mm Oversized Stainless valves and bronze guides available. Pm me please.

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                        #12
                        checking for wheel bearing broblems while the breakes are still on wheel assambly. uh oh had to find out about that the hard way.
                        are we there yet are we there yet are we there yet

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                          #13
                          That the h22 sleeves arent strong...in fact they are very strong sleeves.

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                            #14
                            interesting thread

                            *non car related*

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                            *knocked up* hahaha
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                              #15
                              MYTH: A/C and P/S weigh a lot and provide significant weight savings when removed

                              BUST: All the P/S stuff weighs about 10# tops, and ALL the A/C stuff, lines, compressor, condensor, evaporator, weighs about 40#, TOPS. I bought my car without it, and recently put back the bulk of the A/C stuff, and it feels EXACTLY THE SAME. The front end isn't lower and it's not slower at any noticeable level. Do they slow you down when they're on... YEA... but IMO it's stupid to take that stuff out on a daily driver...


                              Originally posted by lordoja
                              im with you on that one bro! aint nothing beat free food and drinks any day of the week, even if its at a funeral

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