Will these shocks work with coilovers

[otto07]

would Koni STR.T Shocks work with a set of coilovers?

If so which coilovers would be nice with them.

[AccordWarrior]

You mean coilover sleeves, not coilovers.

A full coilover setup will come with dampers.

Honestly, if you need height adjustability, just buy a full coilover system, don't go the sleeve route. The spring rate on those things are silly high, so they're not going to ride all that well. Plus if you ever encounter road salt, most sleeves use an aluminum threaded collar which just corrodes up and freezes the adjuster nuts.

If you want a drop, find a set of springs that give the height you would like. I have no experience with the Konis, but from what I've read, they seem to be garnering a lot of positive attention.

[Ghetto_CB7]

yes

They will work with a set of coilovers, in the sense that you can put a coil over threaded sleeve on that shock and use it.

However, you will be hard pressed to find a spring rate that is low enough for those shocks to keep up with.

You will want one close to the listing for the nuespeed sport springs, you can find this spring rate listed in one of the suspension stickies.

Now with that bing said you can run a higher spring rate on that strut, but I don't think it will last all that long, and will probably be bouncy.

Also many people on here have probably done this, or something similar, so they will have more of an idea on how it rides.

EDIT: Koni makes an amazing shock, so good choice there. As for the full coilover, they still use higher spring rates then I would like to use on my accord. Probably mid 600's in/lb is where coilover springs sit weather they come on a damper or not.

[deevergote]

Coilover sleeves vary from brand to brand... so asking such a general question isn't going to get you much of an answer.

The only company I know that will offer a variety of spring rates with their coilover sleeves (and the only company I would trust for coilover sleeves, honestly) would be Ground Control. Call them, and tell them what shocks you want to run. They will tell you if they have a spring rate that will work. If anyone has a compatible spring rate, they will. If they do not, they will be honest with you.

I don't really understand the point of coilover sleeves, unless you race your car and have a specific need to be able to fine-tune your ride height. For a street car, you'll adjust it and leave it at a certain height. If you keep messing with it, you'll need to get an alignment every time. That gets expensive and time consuming. A good set of springs matched with a good set of shocks (such as H&R Sport springs and the STR.T shocks...) would be a much better option, IMO.

[Ironcb7]

I have those shockS as a koni product they are very good but only if you are using them as oem replacement, but if you are planning to lower the car they will in less than 2 months get bouncy and u will feel the smallest bump out there. I will recommend to save a bit more an try to get Neuspeed/Koni yellows or KYB agx.

[deevergote]

STR.T are better suited to a drop that KYB AGX. The AGX is basically just an adjustable stock replacement. Not made for a high spring rate or a low drop. The Koni STR.T is basically what you get with a Koni Yellow on the "full soft" setting.

Still, if you want a stiff spring or a low drop, Koni Yellows, or some custom valved Bilsteins are the way to go. If you can't get the right parts, then you really shouldn't be modifying your car in that way.

[RUGER 2.2L]

I don't really understand the point of coilover sleeves, unless you race your car and have a specific need to be able to fine-tune your ride height. For a street car, you'll adjust it and leave it at a certain height. If you keep messing with it, you'll need to get an alignment every time. That gets expensive and time consuming. A good set of springs matched with a good set of shocks (such as H&R Sport springs and the STR.T shocks...) would be a much better option, IMO.

Well just to play devil's advocate here, I think they could be useful for seasonal changes in ride height. My plan is to eventually get a set of coilovers (sleeves) and keep it fairly low in the summer and then raise it up a bit in the winter. I do a lot of snowboarding and the parking lots can be pretty rough. As for the alignments, a firestone lifetime alignment should do the trick. Then I won't be dumping money into alignments every 6 months. And to the OP, if you are seriously looking at the STRT's and considering putting coilover sleeves on them, just spend the extra money and get koni yellows as I plan to do. From my research, they can handle just about any spring/coilover sleeve setup you want to run. That is what saving up money is for lol. Just my .02

Edit: Just realized in my half-asleep state that this thread is in the appearance section. Feel kinda awkward responding now

[deevergote]

Yeah, it's the "appearance" location that kept me from even mentioning the practical uses for coilovers. Usually, I figure anyone that thinks that far into it isn't asking a question like this. That is true, though. The ability to raise the car for winter weather makes sense. However, some sleeves won't go very high at all, making that not an option. I had a set of "lo-boyz" cheapies on a 3rd gen Accord that I bought (the car came with them... it is now on some Progress springs.) These things were so low in the rear that it couldn't be raised higher than a 1.5" tire tuck!

However, it's rare enough just to see a thread that asks about new shocks with sleeves in this part... usually, people that post lowering questions in the appearance section just want to dump their car on the cheapest coils possible, and stock shocks!

[TracieS]

To be honest slevees are a PAIN IN THE ASS. I would recomend Ground Control. Other than that I wouldnt get them. And if you do get a camber kit Im never doing the slevees agin. What I have spent on alligments and geting tires. I could've bought fullbody coilovers with camber adjuster plates. And way better ride quality. I had H and R sport springs OMG I miss the ride quality.

So far Ive spent-
Megan Racing sleeves= 170
alligments= 60x3
Tires=500 because of camber
Other things I've broke because of dumping a car on 20 yr old parts= 350

[deevergote]

Camber adjuster plates do not work for our cars.



I'm DEFINITELY a fan of H&R. I had the Sport springs on KYB AGX (a poor match for those springs), and I wasn't thrilled... but I loved the stance. I currently have H&R Race on my car, with Koni Yellows. Amazing ride. Best shocks ever (and the 3 perches allow for some height adjustment, a'la coilover sleeves.) I don't like the stance as much, though. Someday, when I feel like tearing things apart again, I'll get another set of H&R Race.

I've never felt the need to adjust my ride height. H&R figured it out for me quite well.

[Ironcb7]

Camber adjuster plates do not work for our cars.



I'm DEFINITELY a fan of H&R. I had the Sport springs on KYB AGX (a poor match for those springs), and I wasn't thrilled... but I loved the stance. I currently have H&R Race on my car, with Koni Yellows. Amazing ride. Best shocks ever (and the 3 perches allow for some height adjustment, a'la coilover sleeves.) I don't like the stance as much, though. Someday, when I feel like tearing things apart again, I'll get another set of H&R Race.

I've never felt the need to adjust my ride height. H&R figured it out for me quite well.

Dude can u please post a pic of ur ride, I want to see the gaps between tire and fender.

[deevergote]

I don't have any current pictures. Search in the Members Rides section of this site. You'll find a number of people with the same setup. Neuspeed springs have the same drop and spring rate as H&R, so anyone with Neuspeed springs will have practically the same setup as me.

Plus, this is going way off topic. This thread is not about fender gap, or pictures of other people's cars. Please keep the conversation on topic.

[Noridetoolow]

Im gonna chime in and second the devils advocate.....I would say that MOST of the people I know driving imports (Hondas and Acuras mostly) run coilovers in either a sleeve or full setup and have often changed ride height. Granted not by much but basically for purposes of wheel and tire changes or just for change of stance, want it a little lower or higher, etc. If you slam out a car or truck and get it aligned, a small change in ride height (1" for example) will not have a major impact on tire wear. But that 1" will make a huge difference in look and possibly ride quality. As for ride quality, keep in mind that though few are fans of bouncy, many many people have no problem with a stiff race inspired suspension on a daily driver.

I will agree with the fact that cheap ebay coilovers on stock struts is a HORRIBLE setup.

[Grafix Ink.]

Im gonna chime in and second the devils advocate.....I would say that MOST of the people I know driving imports (Hondas and Acuras mostly) run coilovers in either a sleeve or full setup and have often changed ride height. Granted not by much but basically for purposes of wheel and tire changes or just for change of stance, want it a little lower or higher, etc. If you slam out a car or truck and get it aligned, a small change in ride height (1" for example) will not have a major impact on tire wear. But that 1" will make a huge difference in look and possibly ride quality. As for ride quality, keep in mind that though few are fans of bouncy, many many people have no problem with a stiff race inspired suspension on a daily driver.

I will agree with the fact that cheap ebay coilovers on stock struts is a HORRIBLE setup.

agreed with it all.. IMO anything after-market on stock strut would be bad.

Better to spend wisely once vs spending horribly multiple times.

[AccordWarrior]

One additional point here that I will reiterate from my original post:

If you insist on running sleeves/full coilovers to raise your ride height for winter, make sure you coat the threads in anti-sieze or something along those lines before they see road salt for the first time. Another ideal that I have heard that some people do is wrap the coils in duct tape.

If the threads are aluminum, they will corrode when they come into contact with road salt and you won't be able to adjust them again.

I helped my friend swap his Tein Basics from his old 92 Si hatch to his wife's 97 EK sedan and they were completely frozen. We got 3 of the 4 free with a BFW and just couldn't free the 4th no matter what we did to it.

Just a point to consider.