ecu tuning advice

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i have a 93 4door with a jdm lsd h22a swap going in i have also purchased a turbonetics kit and intercooler, i have a p13 ecu and have been trying to figure out what to do for tuning. i like the hondata products but i do not see anything for the p13, am i missing something or do i need a different ecu? if so any recomendations on compatability, any advice would be greatly appreciated. thanks.

[evil_demon_01]

i have a 93 4door with a jdm lsd h22a swap going in i have also purchased a turbonetics kit and intercooler, i have a p13 ecu and have been trying to figure out what to do for tuning. i like the hondata products but i do not see anything for the p13, am i missing something or do i need a different ecu? if so any recomendations on compatability, any advice would be greatly appreciated. thanks.

You need to use a P28, or a modified P06.

[chrischhorn]

You need to use a P28, or a modified P06.

^^^ both are from a 92-95 civic. The p28 already has vtec and if you get a P06 you will need to add vtec to it with a kit from xenocron or something. You CANNOT run either of these ecu's without a chip/basemap or some form of tuning so after or your car will run terrible.

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will the hondata product take care of that or am i still going to need to find someplace to tune the car? if i can buy something plug and play that would be great. i do not know of any reputable shops in denver and really want to avoid someone blowing up my car after all this expense. thanks for the help.

[evil_demon_01]

will the hondata product take care of that or am i still going to need to find someplace to tune the car? if i can buy something plug and play that would be great. i do not know of any reputable shops in denver and really want to avoid someone blowing up my car after all this expense. thanks for the help.

If you get the P28 or P06 you need to have the Hondata components added to the ecu.
When you first receive Hondata there are some basemaps there for the H22, but as they are only basemaps, you need to take it to a shop to have it tuned properly.

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If you get the P28 or P06 you need to have the Hondata components added to the ecu.
When you first receive Hondata there are some basemaps there for the H22, but as they are only basemaps, you need to take it to a shop to have it tuned properly.

thanks. i am going with the hondata stuff on a friends advise, ive had plenty of these cars but thsi is my first turbo honda. is that the right product or is there anything better?

[GhostAccord]

thanks. i am going with the hondata stuff on a friends advise, ive had plenty of these cars but thsi is my first turbo honda. is that the right product or is there anything better?

Best person to ask that question would be the person who is going to end up tuning your car. Find out what software they use and go with that setup. Usually makes things much easier for them and it's also easier on your wallet in the long run.

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Nothing will be plug and play as far as tuning goes. You will need the ECU tuned for YOUR car. Any generic map should only be used to get it running. I've seen far too many people blow up using maps that weren't made for their particular engine and setup. The H22 especially is something you need to be careful with. The compression is high, which makes the detonation threshold fairly low. You have a relatively small margin of error.

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Nothing will be plug and play as far as tuning goes. You will need the ECU tuned for YOUR car. Any generic map should only be used to get it running. I've seen far too many people blow up using maps that weren't made for their particular engine and setup. The H22 especially is something you need to be careful with. The compression is high, which makes the detonation threshold fairly low. You have a relatively small margin of error.

thanks, i am going to try to find a shop here in denver that can tune it for me, i definitly want to make sure its reliable this will be my commuting car, and ive spent to much to let it blow up. thanks for the advise guys.

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Boosting your daily driver is risky. Be sure you can function without it in the worst case situation! I drive for a living (my 09 Fit has 124,000 miles on it already), so there's no way in hell I could modify the car I drive daily! Fortunately, I have the luxury of having more than one car... so the H22 will most likely see boost soon.

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yeah thanks for the advise, living without it is no problem i have severall other cars this is just going to be the most efficient and is the oldest so dont care how many miles i put on it. do you think it will be fairly safe around 8-10 lbs of boost?

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Potentially.

With boost, it's difficult to say with any certainty. Take as much care to do things right the first time to avoid doing any damage, and you'll increase your chances of having a reliable car. It's like asking a healthy 85 year old to run a marathon. He may be fine... he may keel over in the first 10 minutes.