Concerned CB7 member...

[WiKKeDV16]

welp.. its apparent that since ppl are getting their tax returns.. and its summer.. schools.. over.. and now cb7 members can play with their cars.. ALOT of them are going forced induction.. this worries me.. i see alot of ppl buying parts for dsm kits and dsm kits entirely.. but.. i dont see anyone posting on checking compression in all cylinders.. i dont see anyone posting about replacing the clutch and whats best.. i dont see anyone upgrading axles.. or giving their f22a's any form of refurbishment what so ever.. to handle the demands of forced induction.. i havent said anything because frankly.. its not my car.. do what u will.. BUT.. i will not tolerate ppl bad mouthing forced induction due to those of u who select to half-ass the process.. some of u are smart enough to do uberdata.. but.. i wont point fingers.. but i feel those of u who chip ecus.. (R33,MRX) two of my closest friends.. need to tell ppl to look into self tuning.. i mean.. seriously.. this "waiting on a chip in the mail" nonsense has got to stop.. if u had the balls to do ur own DIY turbo setup.. then have the fucking bulls to learn how to tune it as well.. MRX did it.. R33 did it.. why cant u? there just like any of u.. we sat there and read and read and read till we grasped the concept of uberdata and the like.. so wtf.. ppl.. jump on the ball.. i still CANT BELIEVE this board replies on 2-3 ppl for their chipping needs.. it doesnt bother me.. but.. WTF.. were more creative then that... to rely on 2 ppl...

so.. this isnt so much a rant.. as a cry for.. some common sense im not seeing in some of u.. a good example... and again im not trying to point fingers.. but recently i helped in the install of a dsm kit.. 1 day later.. he had no boost.. he had no clue what to do.. its shit like that .. that pisses me off.. i mean.. i understand not knowing how to install and needing help.. but.. reading up on the topic would help ya some..

ok i think im done....

/end rant..


Hybrid Theory

[92ex]

well I am boosting, but didn't bother to check compression. f22b which is pretty new, my guess is the compression is fine. I've actually thought mine through. Been waiting months to boost. And I have money set aside for the clutch. I know that will go. But I agree, all the member going turbo, and they are relying on mrx/r33 to make them basemaps, and then they tell mrx/r33 what's not right and have another chip sent. If your gonna do it, do it all the way. Buy all the tuning and software crap, and get it done right. it'll be interesting how many blocks go by winter time though. (crosses fingers) hope it's not mine...

[WiKKeDV16]

see ur still in my shit list because u just said it.. "my guess" is the compression is fine.. just because its JDM doesnt mean it couldnt have been ragged on.. NOT TO MENTION its been SITTING for how long...?? thats a big iffy ppl dont see.. but yeah im know uve done ur homework and i praise u for it.. but some ppl.. just ugh.. i feel sad come winter time.. when the climate changes and they forget to adjust their maps..

[90boostdaccord]

people do need to do their research when plannin on a forced induction setup. quit relying on everyone to spoon feed you. i'm not so sure that you should upgrade EVERYTHING right away, as that would get expensive. but a compression test is a must.

what the people coming to the "dark" side need to realize, is that shit happens. you can't expect to not run into any complications. everytime you modify your engine/vehicle, you should be prepared for the worst. i'm boosting a stock f22, to 10 psi, with the occasional spike to 15 or so , but that doesn't mean that you can.

i think what carlos is trying to say is make sure you know what you're getting into, and expect problems to arise. every engine is different, and every setup is as well.

-sean

[WiKKeDV16]

a quote from an old friend..



"plan ur work..
......then work ur plan"

[Boost_Lee]

I totally agree with this post

This DSM kit fad is getting a little out of hand. So many people see results of 3 boosted cb7s and think that they too can do it. It isn't that easy though. If you want your turbo to be in tip top shape, and you want to hang with the big boys, you need to research. R33 did it, MRX did it, Wikked knows his stuff and hes completely right. Once you set your mind on the project, then stick to it; but dont just hop on the bandwagon to follow everyone else. Do what makes you tuners happy, not just to fit in. Take a chance any TRY something new. I'll admit I was one of those bandwagon peeps, but I learned to stand my own. I had to decide what I want, what made me happy, and I followed through the whole way. Let's all use this thread wisely and think about what we really can and can't do based on our limits. If there's a will there's a way, and with that will comes time, devotion, and dedication.

.02
-Burleigh

[WiKKeDV16]

nice post.. oh..

"it isnt that easy thou"

24hr install says it is jk... ignore this... rofl

[90boostdaccord]

nice post.. oh..

"it isnt that easy thou"

24hr install says it is jk... ignore this... rofl

shit, i could've stayed up longer if i had too

[WiKKeDV16]

shit, i could've stayed up longer if i had too

oh stfu.. u were passing out in the chair while antoine was retuning the map.. i counted.. u knocked out 3 times and woke up shortly after bobbing ur head.. so hush you!!


back on topic please.. no whoring.. i want this shit stickied..

[90boostdaccord]

i was resting my neck, i pretty much worked for 24hrs without food

[Nycxeracer]

Wikked, I couldn't agree with you more, it seems as if that boosting is more than what members bargained for, and when it doesn't turn out the way they predicted, they start begging for answers. I feel like everybody and there mother on here is fabbing a dsm kit, it's like any other trend on here, amber lights, lips, etc etc. However, people have NO clue what they're getting themselves into using forced induction. No offense to anyone that boosts, but I'd much rather work for my horsepower than stick some fabbed kit on there and pray my car is still running in a couple years.

[starchland]

maybe the thread starter could help by posting a few links to some basic reading on DIY boosting, just a thought.

[WiKKeDV16]

www.cb7tuner.com .....

read up... i mean seriously.. all the turbo info is here.. enough ppl have done dsm kits.. its not so much about how to do it.. ppl can do the turbo installs just fine.. its the aftermath.. (clutch wear/tuning/axle wear/maintenance) etc.. thats what ppl rarely look into..

[90_accord_dx]

yeah, tis true that everyone and theyre mother are goin forced induction with the dsm set up.. I am to.. I am happy to say Ill be the only turbo 4th gen in my area, and I am taking my time, for the install.. making shure everything goes smoothly.. no, I havent compression checked or leak tested my motor, and I know I should have.. but I dont plan on rodding the piss out of my car when I do get it finished, I know i need to invest in a nice clutch, and some higher hp axles.. ill get to that someday.. untill then Im getting a mbc.. and dumming the boost down to 4 or 5 psi... just to be safe for the first 500 or so miles, just to make shure everything is hooked up right and goes smoothly, I have invested alot of time reading and studying about this, yet I still have my fair share of questions, and I ask because Im curious and want to know the answers, so I can do things RIGHT THE FIRST TIME! I thank mrx for getting my ecu done, because that part I admit I do not know anything about, so thanks! and after I get enough money to have my axles and clutch upgraded, I am gonna go have my motor tested to make shure it can handle 7-9 psi.. and after that is done, I am going to excessive autosports here in town and have it tuned, and if my motor doesnt check out for that amount of psi.. ill save and buy a new f22 that CAN handle the boost

~Jamie

[WiKKeDV16]

yeah, tis true that everyone and theyre mother are goin forced induction with the dsm set up.. I am to.. I am happy to say Ill be the only turbo 4th gen in my area, and I am taking my time, for the install.. making shure everything goes smoothly.. no, I havent compression checked or leak tested my motor, and I know I should have.. but I dont plan on rodding the piss out of my car when I do get it finished, I know i need to invest in a nice clutch, and some higher hp axles.. ill get to that someday.. untill then Im getting a mbc.. and dumming the boost down to 4 or 5 psi... just to be safe for the first 500 or so miles, just to make shure everything is hooked up right and goes smoothly, I have invested alot of time reading and studying about this, yet I still have my fair share of questions, and I ask because Im curious and want to know the answers, so I can do things RIGHT THE FIRST TIME! I thank mrx for getting my ecu done, because that part I admit I do not know anything about, so thanks! and after I get enough money to have my axles and clutch upgraded, I am gonna go have my motor tested to make shure it can handle 7-9 psi.. and after that is done, I am going to excessive autosports here in town and have it tuned, and if my motor doesnt check out for that amount of psi.. ill save and buy a new f22 that CAN handle the boost

~Jamie

u know.. u almost had me convinced.. until u sat there and said ur getting a MBC to LOWER ur PSI.. MBC's can only RAISE stock wastegate pressure not lower it.. so... its a waste for u to get the MBC.. unless u plan on raising boost.. just FYI.... id suggest modifying the wastegate for a lower boost setting or.. changing it for something thats set really low.. (good luck finding something thats set that low)