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    #16
    After driving around my immediate area quite a few times, I decided it was time to give it a longer distance test. I went to my friend's house and back, which was about 80 miles roundtrip. There were a couple times I could've thought I heard something rubbing in the suspension, but I'm not too sure. The biggest thing that stands out to me now is the right rear door's weatherstripping. It's got a big chunk missing and the extra tire noise generated by its wet tires is immediately noticable.

    Last night went very well though. Fairly quiet, heat worked great, and I got it up to over 80mph at one point with no problem at all. The suspension feels a bit shaky as if some of the bushings are ready to go, but the shocks all work great and there's no clunking to report. The brakes are getting a little better. Maybe they just needed a little self-adjustment on the drums.

    One of my headlight bulbs burned out, so that was replaced.
    My '91 LX build. Bought September 2017. Sold June 2020.
    http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...r /> t=209871
    Current mileage: 399450 5/18/2020

    My '92 LX build. Bought Novemeber 2019. http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...91#post3293791
    Current mileage: 422679 11/21/19

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      #17
      After driving the car for about 400 miles I've made some observations.

      1. The car pulls to the right fairly significantly, but not too bad. It looks to have been that way for a while judging by the tires wear pattern. Again, not too bad. I need to do a thorough suspension inspection. It rides very comfortably, but there's a bit of rattling when ever I go over bumps. I think the shocks are okay, but all other mounting points are suspect right now.

      2. The "S" light on the dash is always on while in D. However I'm experiencing no driveability problems. The trans seems to shift into all gears, if just a tad bit harshly. All motor mounts have been replaced, so I'm good there. It's very possible the TCU was replaced with a later model that didn't have the revered Sport mode which is keeping the "S" light on.

      3. All HVAC controls work great, however the lights for the knobs and transmission indicator worked only for a short time before going out. The lights for the airway direction work okay at all times. Given they went out at the same time, I'm thinking there's a problem with a connector or in the wiring somewhere. One of the air vents above the HVAC knobs is very loose, leading me to believe someone's been in there before and they may have messed with the wiring. I bought extra bulbs just in case.

      4. Question about the radio: is any part of it besides your selected preset buttons and selected station display supposed to illuminate?

      5. The brakes are still too soft and squishy. I think I need to bleed them again.

      6. Rear defroster works great!

      7. I got about 320 miles out of 4/5 of a tank, so I think mileage has been good so far.

      8. Driver's side window wants to cock forward and not seat in its channel when rolling back up. Not sure if it's just the run or the regulator at this point.

      9. Cigarette lighter works, but you have to hold it in. It won't stick in and then pop out when it's hot. Not sure if that's the correct function.
      My '91 LX build. Bought September 2017. Sold June 2020.
      http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...r /> t=209871
      Current mileage: 399450 5/18/2020

      My '92 LX build. Bought Novemeber 2019. http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...91#post3293791
      Current mileage: 422679 11/21/19

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        #18
        If you still have the original springs in the front, check that they aren't broken. The bottom coil tends to break right where it comes off the seat on the shock.
        90 LX 4dr 5 spd 396,014 (sold 1/1/2022) - MRT: http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=201450
        08 Element LX FWD AT 229,000 - MRT: fleetw00d : 2008 Honda Element LX - CB7Tuner Forums

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          #19
          Originally posted by fleetw00d View Post
          If you still have the original springs in the front, check that they aren't broken. The bottom coil tends to break right where it comes off the seat on the shock.
          Fleetw00d is right on this. My '93 SE has a broken passenger side front spring right at the front of the perch.
          MRT: 1993 Honda Accord SE Coupe (Lola)

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            #20
            wow broken crank pulley bolt! that sucks. I would have been so upset..

            All your work is great! ever think of doing some OEM upgrades? f22a6 intake manifold?

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              #21
              Latest part number for the TCM is 28100-PX0-823. I have one if you need one.
              Last edited by Fleetw00d; 01-13-2018, 05:55 PM.
              90 LX 4dr 5 spd 396,014 (sold 1/1/2022) - MRT: http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=201450
              08 Element LX FWD AT 229,000 - MRT: fleetw00d : 2008 Honda Element LX - CB7Tuner Forums

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                #22
                Originally posted by Rilas View Post
                Fleetw00d is right on this. My '93 SE has a broken passenger side front spring right at the front of the perch.
                I'll have to check that out, along with the TCU whenever it gets warm. It's friggin cold outside and my back is messing with me. I'm in no condition to be picking the yard.

                Originally posted by fleetw00d View Post
                Latest part number for the TCM is 28100-PX0-823. I have one if you need one.
                I thought it was called TCU? In any case please PM me how much you need to ship it my way.

                I'm also looking for a negative battery cable, if anyone has one.

                Originally posted by excalibur02 View Post
                wow broken crank pulley bolt! that sucks. I would have been so upset..

                All your work is great! ever think of doing some OEM upgrades? f22a6 intake manifold?
                Nah, not too much mechanically; not right now anyway. My main focus was getting it running and getting everything functional again, which I have for the most part. I had the itch to grab a later PCU(M)? and cam because I had the head off anyway, but I figured I wanted to make sure it would run reliably first. Now I'm just chasing extra things like lighting, funny noises, cosmetic stuff, getting the suspension tip top, etc.
                Last edited by wtfisafleek; 01-16-2018, 12:39 AM.
                My '91 LX build. Bought September 2017. Sold June 2020.
                http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...r /> t=209871
                Current mileage: 399450 5/18/2020

                My '92 LX build. Bought Novemeber 2019. http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...91#post3293791
                Current mileage: 422679 11/21/19

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                  #23
                  Over the past couple days the car has been intermittently just dying on the road. I've been able to restart, but only after turning the key all the way off and trying again. I just went out to start it up and now it won't even start.

                  I'm getting a code 15 for Ignition Output Signal. So I'll be going to get a new ICM soon from Vatozone or somewhere. In the meantime if you have a known good one I'll buy it from you for a backup since the aftermarket ones aren't as reliable.


                  **I spoke too soon. When reassembling everything after the cylinder head replacement I'd neglected to replace one of the electrical connectors that the PO had broken, probably when replacing the dizzy before. I reconnected it and zip tied it up and it starts up and runs just fine now.
                  Last edited by wtfisafleek; 01-18-2018, 09:25 PM.
                  My '91 LX build. Bought September 2017. Sold June 2020.
                  http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...r /> t=209871
                  Current mileage: 399450 5/18/2020

                  My '92 LX build. Bought Novemeber 2019. http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...91#post3293791
                  Current mileage: 422679 11/21/19

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by wtfisafleek View Post
                    I thought it was called TCU?
                    Control unit, control module, it's all the same thing. Different brands have different names for things, and depending on who you learned from, you'll pick up different ideas of what to call them. There are actually several different acronyms for the engine computer. See, you're using PCM, and most of us here are used to ECU (engine control unit).

                    Accord Aero-R

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                      #25
                      Makes sense to get the car in tip top shape before modifying. That cam and the pt6 ecu would benefit for later like you said.

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                        #26
                        That's about the gist of it excalibur.

                        So it wasn't that connector after all. I went for a donut run this morning, and the damn thing died on me three times on the way there and back, about a 2 mile run or so.

                        I went to Autozone last night and got an ICM for the distributor. Looks like I needed it after all. After fighting a stuck rotor I was able to swap it out. After a short run around I think it may be fixed, fingers crossed.

                        Up next, whenever time allows: upper/lower control arms, lower ball joints, tie rod ends, sway bar bushings, shock upper cushion/hat, and driver's door window run.
                        My '91 LX build. Bought September 2017. Sold June 2020.
                        http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...r /> t=209871
                        Current mileage: 399450 5/18/2020

                        My '92 LX build. Bought Novemeber 2019. http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...91#post3293791
                        Current mileage: 422679 11/21/19

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                          #27
                          Moog yes!

                          Driveworks tie rods actually didnt work for my cb. Didnt have enough threads to get a good alignment.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by wtfisafleek View Post
                            Up next, whenever time allows: upper/lower control arms, lower ball joints, tie rod ends, sway bar bushings, shock upper cushion/hat, and driver's door window run.
                            Did you get the run channel new (OEM), aftermarket, or good used?


                            Officially (Majestic's site) it is ATCU (automatic transmission control unit) and ECM (engine control module)
                            Last edited by Fleetw00d; 01-19-2018, 06:06 PM.
                            90 LX 4dr 5 spd 396,014 (sold 1/1/2022) - MRT: http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=201450
                            08 Element LX FWD AT 229,000 - MRT: fleetw00d : 2008 Honda Element LX - CB7Tuner Forums

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by excalibur02 View Post
                              Moog yes!

                              Driveworks tie rods actually didnt work for my cb. Didnt have enough threads to get a good alignment.
                              I'll have to make sure and compare them before I try and install.
                              My '91 LX build. Bought September 2017. Sold June 2020.
                              http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...r /> t=209871
                              Current mileage: 399450 5/18/2020

                              My '92 LX build. Bought Novemeber 2019. http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...91#post3293791
                              Current mileage: 422679 11/21/19

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by fleetw00d View Post
                                Did you get the run channel new (OEM), aftermarket, or good used?
                                )
                                Seeing how intricate the design is, I went with OEM. I wasn't aware they were made in the aftermarket.
                                My '91 LX build. Bought September 2017. Sold June 2020.
                                http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...r /> t=209871
                                Current mileage: 399450 5/18/2020

                                My '92 LX build. Bought Novemeber 2019. http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...91#post3293791
                                Current mileage: 422679 11/21/19

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