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Old 02-10-2020, 05:14 PM   #41
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Whoa baby. This thing is real. *Drooling*

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Old 02-11-2020, 08:03 PM   #42
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I plan on doing it right as I was also told that a linear spring rate was better suited for the wagon considering the rear end would eventually wear out the progressive spring rates of Neuspeed or Eibachs even though I had picked up a set of machined spacers designed specifically for the Koni yellows.
Going back to the suspension for a second, since I'm making the final decision for what I want on mine now, is the linear spring rate only necessary for the rear? The coilovers I'm looking at are progressive up front, which I assume weighs the same as the coupe/sedan, but the rear is a linear 230 lbs/in.
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Old 02-11-2020, 11:35 PM   #43
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Those waffle wheels will look great on that wagon. Good score bro.
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Old 02-12-2020, 07:12 AM   #44
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Going back to the suspension for a second, since I'm making the final decision for what I want on mine now, is the linear spring rate only necessary for the rear? The coilovers I'm looking at are progressive up front, which I assume weighs the same as the coupe/sedan, but the rear is a linear 230 lbs/in.
For me personally? Yeah since I don't want that sagging rear end and I wanted the best combo with the Konis this time around so I am going with the Ground Control combo.

Spoke to a rep from GC about it last year and he recommended 440 for the front and 380 for the rear.

If you decided to go with progressive springs I'd recommend these:



They're spacer rings I picked up on eBay. There's a guy in Quebec who machined these specifically for wagons. Turns out my current suspension has them so if you can't find a set let me know.

And this is how they are suppose to mount..(the cup is upside down) there is a machined inner part that the cup sits on.





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Those waffle wheels will look great on that wagon. Good score bro.
Thanks man, I was ready to pay her for them but I was more surprised at such a kind gesture. She owns a really nice 7th gen too.


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I've also been searching for an exhaust for my car. Two weeks ago I found a RS*R muffler from a junked Integra at a local yard..brought it to work and chopped off the weld off of it only to discover that the innards were destroyed..frayed fiberglass packing and the perforated pipes had broken off.

The donor:


The original weld close up line marked for the cut off line



Side shot of the RS*R



Weld cut off..you can see the inner pipe wasnt secured anymore





Turns out Apexi made a mufflers for the wagons but it was a release in Japan only..testament to how popular these wagons were over there. And through some friends from here I was also told that TAS Auto actually sold them which I never really knew about until a guy on one of the FB pages scored one from an importer in Canada..for an absurdly low price of $89 but they got him on shipping.

Then this morning while searching for an exhaust , I found a Greddy Muffler for a CE1 chassis for about $61.86 but the twist is they get you on shipping which tops out at $451 ..so in the end $512 shipped? I decided to pass on it.

Greddy catback CE1

For that I'd rather snag a full WS2 catback and modify the end for a proper fitment on the wagon.

So next on list a WS2 for the car. I miss owning one and I kicked myself for chopping my old one up and NOT keeping the muffler end (it was still in good shape).
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Old 02-12-2020, 11:18 AM   #45
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For me personally? Yeah since I don't want that sagging rear end and I wanted the best combo with the Konis this time around so I am going with the Ground Control combo.

Spoke to a rep from GC about it last year and he recommended 440 for the front and 380 for the rear.
*Edit: brain-farted there and forgot why I asked the question in the first place... I asked if it's only necessary on the rear, as opposed to needing a linear spring in the front as well.

But me not knowing a whole lot about suspension design, I don't understand why it would matter if the rear itself was progressive or linear, as long as the spring+damper combo overall was rated for the weight. Especially when you consider how many aftermarket options are available for any given car. What kind of use were those recommended specs for, because I'm wanting a smooth ride mixed with performance. I hope my car will see some track use, but I'm not after a hardcore setup. I don't want the car getting unsettled in a curve with a rough surface, since my main playground will be public roads in the mountains. If you don't mind, I'd love to see a review when yours is settle in. GC+Koni yellows were what I was eyeing when I had my sedan but lately, based on reviews on other chassis, I'm looking specifically at KW Variant 2s. They sound well worth the price. People are reporting surprisingly low spring rates, and yet they still handle amazingly while giving a great ride on the street. I guess they put more work into the damping and properly matching it to the spring? Worth checking out...
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Old 02-13-2020, 09:54 AM   #46
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*Edit: brain-farted there and forgot why I asked the question in the first place... I asked if it's only necessary on the rear, as opposed to needing a linear spring in the front as well.

But me not knowing a whole lot about suspension design, I don't understand why it would matter if the rear itself was progressive or linear, as long as the spring+damper combo overall was rated for the weight. Especially when you consider how many aftermarket options are available for any given car. What kind of use were those recommended specs for, because I'm wanting a smooth ride mixed with performance. I hope my car will see some track use, but I'm not after a hardcore setup. I don't want the car getting unsettled in a curve with a rough surface, since my main playground will be public roads in the mountains. If you don't mind, I'd love to see a review when yours is settle in. GC+Koni yellows were what I was eyeing when I had my sedan but lately, based on reviews on other chassis, I'm looking specifically at KW Variant 2s. They sound well worth the price. People are reporting surprisingly low spring rates, and yet they still handle amazingly while giving a great ride on the street. I guess they put more work into the damping and properly matching it to the spring? Worth checking out...
I wanted a combo for mainly street and highway cruising..I don't think it'll see a track event anytime soon though. But if you give them a call the rep was pretty knowledgeable on what he recommended. I believe the higher the spring rate the stiffer the suspension would be and they have the springs off the shelf ready for any application.

Also I used Anthony a.k.a apalileo's car as a reference.

His setup is here he's running a higher rate up front and in the rear.

I did look into KWs but considering I still had a lifetime warranty on these I figured I'd give that combination a shot. The last setup I had on my old sedan was the Koni Yellows with Neuspeed Sport (Green) springs which turned out to be waay to soft near the end of it's life.
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Old 02-13-2020, 11:54 AM   #47
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Thanks for that. It's confusing me that KW's rate would be so low; I'm starting to second guess that... but it's friggin' KW! How could they be like that? haha.
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Old 02-25-2020, 11:45 AM   #48
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Well..I finally took my TL-S wheels and brought them to work for a test fit.



I just love the way the gunmetal contrasts against the Arcadia green. The Legend wheels will be designated as winter wheels for next season. I only put about 3k miles on the current set of DWS 06s

Right now the current tires on it are 235/45/17s..they clear the fronts but rub in the rear.



So I took a spare 225/45/17 a friend mine had sitting in storage and test fitted it.



Clears the rear spindles perfectly. So I'll be ordering a set of Continental DWS06s in a 225/45/17

And these will be finally getting paired with the GCs I'll be ordering. Hard to believe I've been sitting on them for nearly two years.

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Old 06-25-2020, 10:23 AM   #49
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So finally after procrastinating for two years, I pulled the trigger on a set of Ground Controls with a spring rate of 440lbs for the front and 380 lbs in the rear.



And ditched these old Bilsteins:



From this:



When it was first completed the rears were too low:



And adjusted the height to this:



Installation wasn't so bad and also as a preventative maintenance I installed brand new lower shock bolts from Honda



FFC top hats were a bit of a struggle to line up at first but once in they came out nice.



Next up is tires for these TL-webs with a 225/45/17 size



Main things to tackle next:

- Timing belt service
- Rebuild my T2w4 transmission with an Accord 5th gear, I sourced a 4.64 FD locally for a decent price but I read that it wont fit transmissions with a factory LSD.
- Patch up the rust in the quarters.


I realized in the previous posts I have broken image links so I'm in the process of re-hosting those as well through Flickr.
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Old 06-25-2020, 04:14 PM   #50
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What's prompting the wheel switch if you are going that route?
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Old 06-25-2020, 04:37 PM   #51
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Looking good. Let us know how they ride once everything's broken in.
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Old 06-26-2020, 05:47 AM   #52
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Hit me up if you need info on the F22 5th gear synco fit on the H22 and LSD. I'm running a T2T4 with OEM LSD and the F22 5th gear. I had my own made at first but also have the syncrotech F22 5th gear set. Somewhere in my MRT i break it down. I stole all of it from another member too
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Old 06-29-2020, 09:18 PM   #53
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Looking good. Let us know how they ride once everything's broken in.
So far it handles great. Took it out last weekend to Western Massachusetts on a spirited drive, Hugs corners very well.

Went to check out a 5th gen wagon that has 79k original miles and no rust. Sitting at this small used car dealership for about 3 years. Sad to see it just sit there:





Yes, Florida is also a town here in Massachusetts.

Same night after I got home:



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Hit me up if you need info on the F22 5th gear synco fit on the H22 and LSD. I'm running a T2T4 with OEM LSD and the F22 5th gear. I had my own made at first but also have the syncrotech F22 5th gear set. Somewhere in my MRT i break it down. I stole all of it from another member too
Yeah I was told that it was the MB24 transmission that was the odd one that wouldn't work.

Mileage hit 234k so I ended up replacing the spark plug wires, timing belt and water pump with a free box of parts I got from a guy who does powdercoating for my parts.



New pump left..old pump right. Not a Honda replacement but I couldn't complain since it was free.

Before:



Upgraded to an all aluminum radiator got it on eBay for a great price.


After:




Filled with Honda Type 2 the bay is dirty but I'll clean it up at some point:



Another upgrade was the lighting..newest version of the Morimoto XB35s

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Forgot to mention that I upgraded my audio system with the downtime I had. It's an Alpine 4 Channel amp that's wired to 3 MB Quartz 6 x 9 rear and 6 1/2 front speakers.



I mounted it to the box on the right side of the hatch using a dibond and mounted the plate where the plastic cover mounts inside the car. I need to redo it but for where it's located its fine. I just cover it up with the cargo cover.

As for wiring it, I used PET loom and covered the RCAs and wires running from the amplifier to the speakers and I made it so I could still keep the stock radio wires instead of cutting them like most people do. Like I said..I had a lot of downtime to just get things the way I wanted.



Scored this Kenwood 5120DNX headunit for $25 at a locayard..just recently died so I'm in the process of researching and finding a better HU with more features as I recently realized it was way out of date by todays standards.

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Also I finally installed the grey headliner I had sitting since winter but I wired the map lights in wrong so they only come on when the doors open up..at some point I'll redo that and the visor lights but I'm not about to tear down the headliner..again. It was such a pain to do it in the first place and with the humidity, it just makes working on the interior just much more tough.



And from my drive a couple of weekends ago, I visited a good friend in NH who gave me
Delta 272 cam for free.



I feel bad because his car is on it's last legs. Being that it has been a NE car all it's life things were falling apart or just rotting away. In this case the body has a hole in one of the rear quarters and the brake and fuel lines were well on their way out and the motor was also just done for (replaced two HGs but the block is just warped beyond repair) he barely got it to pass S.I this past year so until he gets something newer it;; serve as his daily.
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Today I upgraded the stock fans to a pair of 80 watt slim fans with an aluminum shroud that a friend found on eBay:



But now the a/c compressor just died on me so that's going to be addressed next.
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Is that a universal shroud and fans, or OEM Honda?
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Is that a universal shroud and fans, or OEM Honda?
Its not an OEM piece but it fits the aluminum radiators for the Accord and Prelude.
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Also I finally installed the grey headliner I had sitting since winter but I wired the map lights in wrong so they only come on when the doors open up..at some point I'll redo that and the visor lights but I'm not about to tear down the headliner..again. It was such a pain to do it in the first place and with the humidity, it just makes working on the interior just much more tough.

Niice ... I've always wondered about the amount of work in replacing the head-liner.
And I dont have the sunroof ...
Not that I want to replace mine, but I'd like to do a double LED over-head light upgrade ...
+ the speakers in the head- liner, etc ...
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Niice ... I've always wondered about the amount of work in replacing the head-liner.
And I don't have the sunroof ...
Not that I want to replace mine, but I'd like to do a double LED over-head light upgrade ...
+ the speakers in the head- liner, etc ...
It only made sense to do the mod since the headliner was out. Speakers in the roof were upgraded by the previous owner (MtnBikaah). I might redo it if I can find another grey headliner but we'll see if another one pops up. Another guy from the forums just sent me the OEM roof rack that I've been searching for and those should be here in a few days.

Found them on a wagon in TN through car-part.com

Yesterday the a/c completely crapped out, I suspect one of the old suction or discharge hoses sprung a leak because when I jumped the pressure switch terminal to power the a/c compressor, it took the freon but I could hear it rushing out because of the leak.

Ordered a brand new Denso unit and hoses from rockauto.

Good excuse to replace the 235k mile compressor.
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